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The Kemper Foot Controller: Evolution
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July 11, 2012 at 2:49 PM -
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Good news Ingolf!! I hope someone snapped a few photos of it.
+1, some pictures would be awesome!
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Guys, keep the GAS down, please!
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http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=…d=0CE4QrQMwGDhk
It is not that one ?
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Somewhat convinced the 'switching rigs faster' improvement needed to be implemented before the release of a KPA foot controller.
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Oh man, I'm really curious how the thing will look like! Maybe I won't buy it, but then... Maybe I will has anyone taken a picture of the prototype?!
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I don't think it was used and shown at the event.
But the guy doing the Kemper demo at the event said he had tried it before. -
The Kemper Foot Controler was NOT used in the Demo in Cologne.
Thomas Dill told us, that he asked the Kemper-guys to use the Controler during his workshop tour - but with not luck.
Thomas Dill used a Behringer Controler instead. -
Somewhat convinced the 'switching rigs faster' improvement needed to be implemented before the release of a KPA foot controller.
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The Kemper Foot Controler was NOT used in the Demo in Cologne.
Thomas Dill told us, that he asked the Kemper-guys to use the Controler during his workshop tour - but with not luck.
Thomas Dill used a Behringer Controler instead.Thank you for your information.
Like I said above, this was information passed on (publicly) here in the German subforum that I repeated here in the international section.
(With a grain of salt, and rightfully so it seems).Time to relax, again.
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I tend to agree with you. OTOH, the possibility to use a looper with the KFC only would be a great incentive for sales, wouldn't it
Well I'd certainly buy it. A good looper would round out the KPA nicely, but the whole topic raises too many questions. Basically, how good a looper, and at what cost? Or more specifically, how long a loop time, how many tracks, what sort of features...
And how would you route the audio to and from the amp? I assume the floorboard will send/receive control signals of some kind, and at most have a 1/4" jack for guitar input/ passthrough as a convenience (even this is unlikely.) But a looper implemented in the floorboard would need audio routed from the KPA - probably from post amp/effects and back to somewhere in the signal chain (e.g. pre-reverb.) That's a lot of information flying around, probably in the digital domain as SPDIF. The only alternative would be for the floorboard to control a looper running in the KPA itself, but this presumes that a whole lot of RAM has been just sitting in there for the past 2+ years doing nothing, and that's not likely either.
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Things could actually be much easier than that. Judging by how Kemper is managing the evolution of the unit and by what they always say, I'd not be surprised if the unit had been designed with a looper in mind since day one
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Things could actually be much easier than that. Judging by how Kemper is managing the evolution of the unit and by what they always say, I'd not be surprised if the unit had been designed with a looper in mind since day one
I can't know one way or the other of course, but I doubt it. There's not really much to a looper except a pile of memory and some firmware to control the read/write sequence. If Kemper had loaded enough memory into the KPA to support a decent looper (without compromising all of the other effects) there would have been an associated cost, and they'd have been motivated to see some return - probably by way of an on-board looper you could control via one of the 1/4" footswitch jacks.
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The only alternative would be for the floorboard to control a looper running in the KPA itself, but this presumes that a whole lot of RAM has been just sitting in there for the past 2+ years doing nothing, and that's not likely either.
I'm pretty there was a post from CK, maybe a year go, that the Kemper still has a fair amount of room for software improvements. A looper is really just a delay with a much longer time, so it seems pretty reasonable to me.
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A looper is really just a delay with a much longer time, so it seems pretty reasonable to me.
Well, with the looper you can overdub several tracks, this is the main difference. That's why it would require more memory
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You're recording them onto the original loop, so it shouldn't need any more than the first loop by itself. No?
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You're recording them onto the original loop, so it shouldn't need any more than the first loop by itself. No?
I don't think it's that easy
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I can't know one way or the other of course, but I doubt it. There's not really much to a looper except a pile of memory and some firmware to control the read/write sequence. If Kemper had loaded enough memory into the KPA to support a decent looper (without compromising all of the other effects) there would have been an associated cost, and they'd have been motivated to see some return - probably by way of an on-board looper you could control via one of the 1/4" footswitch jacks.
All speculation of course, but I think the looper will come as a KPA software upgrade, possibly simultaneously with the release of the Kemper Foot Controller (although I wouldn't be surprised if it were controllable with other foot switches as well).It wouldn't be that strange if the Kemper already has the hardware (memory) for it. When it first came out it was, in some ways, an unfinished device, with a lot of hardware plans that weren't implemented yet (performance mode, undo) -- which is great as it was already fantastic and could only get better! Developing the software for such features just takes time. We got performance mode a while ago and undo with the recent 2.5 release -- until then there were still two unused buttons on the front! The Kemper seems so well planned and future proof that, again, I wouldn't be surprised if it had memory to spare.
Well, with the looper you can overdub several tracks, this is the main difference. That's why it would require more memory
I don't know how sophisticated we should expect the looper to be though, compared to a dedicated standalone looper unit with multiple independent tracks etc. My old GT-10 had a very simple one built-in, which worked the way Lokasenna described. -
Smaller and hurry the F up. :>)
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