Posts by Laimon

Quote from Wheresthedug

What interface?

What input?

Motu 828es. The front inputs are a Hi-Z jack/XLR combos.

Quote from Wheresthedug

Was it a High Impedance instrument input or just a line input? An impedance mismatch would reduce the highs on the interface so that could easily account for the difference you described.

Like I said it's not the highs that are impacted, rather the lows.

Quote from Wheresthedug

On the Kemper, did you use Analog DI or DI High/DI Low? Analog should literally be like plugging into a DI box wheres the others go through A/D converfirst.

With the Kemper player I could only select DI High or DI Low (and picked Low as it seemed the right match level-wise)

Quote from sailor

In that case you shouldn’t be surprised that they are different.

Yeah I know, but you can see that they are "consistently" different, all transients are way more defined in the KPA DI. That's not a performance difference (cause then there would be some transient higher in one, other higher in the other).

Quote from DonPetersen

I think you might have it backwards

the upper waveform looks the way I expect a guitar's DI signal to look - with clear transients.

there is something going on with the lower waveform, rather severe limiting it seems.

That may also be the case. I don't have a DI box at the moment (I'm gonna get one as soon as I can), so the signal might not be optimal.

Quote from sailor

Are you saying those are recordings of two separate performancess?

Yes, those are two separate performances.

I've heard (well, read) in the past Christoph Kemper say that the profiler input has some "secret sauce", and lately I've been investigating that a bit.

I recorded two DIs, one going straight to my audio interface, and one going to my Kemper player and then sending the DI to the interface. (I replayed the DI, unfortunately I didn't have a splitter at hand).

Already looking at the waves it's pretty apparent that the DIs are quite different. It's not that the Kemper DI is louder, it has much higher transients, which shows a higher dinamic range.

When you hear the DIs with some amp emulations, you can hear how the Kemper DI is indeed more dynamic, has definitely a lot more low end push and maybe a tiny bit of highs roll off. Honestly, it might not be "transparent" like people want their DI, but it sounds very musical to me, and whenever I play some amp sims I feel that they can't reproduce that kind of low-end dynamic that the KPAs have.

So the question is: does anyone have a more precise idea of what's going on there? I'm trying to understand if that can be reproduced without necessarily recording through the KPA (I have tried doing audio through USB, and had some trouble so far).

Tried with multiple different USB cables, too

Yeah, absolutely, this is the setup.

OS is Windows 11 and DAW is Cubase 14 pro.

Ok, this is probably a dumb question to those who already succeded in this, but how the heck do I send do I send my DI - or any sound, for that matter - to my DAW?

Like, everything is installed, I have the right ASIO selected and my DAW see the ports (Profiler 1-4), but then I get 0 signal from any of the ports.

I tried changing settings in the output section: direct monitoring, reamping, the corresponding output, the monitor and master outputs - nothing, I just get nothing.

It doesn't help that when the DAW is using the Kemper ASIO driver the rig manager doesn't see the Player, and viceversa

Any suggestions?

Regarding the bi-directional MIDI: I don't think the player offers MIDI OUT. If nothing changed in the last ~6 months AND it's not something they offer with the upgrades, last time I tried there was nothing of the sort (I also checked with a MIDI monitor and nothing was being sent from the player)

Pinging this, I saw some questions about it on Facebook and I still don't know the answer.

Can we add the option in Rig Manager to type in specific values for a parameter, rather than just using the mouse?

I know we can fine tune pressing shift at the same time, but still sometimes that does not give nearly enough granularity (e.g. when setting the Monitor Out volume level, which I suppose follows a logarithmic curve, it's really hard to set a low volume when values do 20 dB jump at the slightest movement of the mouse).

+1!

It's not entirely clear to me, but it seems like the player only support MIDI IN, but not MIDI OUT.
Any chance of supporting that?

Quote from Gmanella

This leads to my question: Is it possible to fix the Mastervolume of the KPP at a certain value that it won't react
when turned accidentally during travel?

Hi Gmanella,

from the output menu you can link or unlink any output from the master volume:

I just got a Kemper Player which is amazing just like its older brother, but I'm having some problems dialing in low volumes. I am sending the monitor out into the power section of an amp which does not have a power amp volume, and so any tiny movement of the master volume knob makes you go from absolutely nothing to ear shattering. I thought it would make sense to have, possibly for each output, volume ranges (e.g. in this case probably from -inf to -60 dbs) so that then the knob can have a finer granularity over an actually usable range given the context.

Quote from GearJocke

I've sold guitars so I guess I'm some kind of monster. ?

The horror!
(just kidding, I have too, but now it's been many years since I sold any)

Quote from geddonarchon

I’m always amazed how many people get stuck in a tone obsession. It drives the amp and pedal industry. To anyone on the outside it looks like insanity. I’m as guilty as any. I had a friend come over a while back and look at the 25 guitars I have in my music room and ask what the difference was. I said they sound different and I played a bit on two of them for him. He said yeah they did sound a little different but who cares. This is how everyone else sees our insane behaviors. Anyway I’m glad he said it because I think it was what got me putting lots of guitars in different tunings which has had me picking up more of them more often. I feel the same way about the quad cortex, kemper, axe fx 3, and helix. All of them are excellent tools and any one person is probably better off sticking to one and learning it in and out rather than chasing the latest thing. Gear obsession is mostly just a waste of time.

Amen. Sometimes I really think that indeed I would be happier with just one guitar, one amp, end of story...but when you get a new guitar it's like having a kid, how can you sell it? What kind of monster are you?!?

Quote from BayouTexan

Sounds like you need to get "buffed up". 20 meters (65 feet)?

https://www.andertons.co.uk/empress-buffer-pedal

Yep, I know, it's a bit of a weird setup, but yeah. And to be honest, it's impressive that the Mogami 2524 loses close to nothing on such lengths (when I say a tad bit, I really mean a tad bit!)

Did anyone figure this out in the meantime?
I had to run a fairly long loop (~20m of cable), and I do hear a tad bit of highs rolloff. (Cable is great btw, Mogami 2524 with Neutrik connectors)

Quote from drew_fx

When comparing the Kemper to the QC for capturing, and having the reference amp still setup for comparison between all three, time and time again the QC gets closer to the real amp.

This isn't to be unexpected or a surprise. The Profiler has tech from a decade ago. Machine learning and AI assisted systems have moved on a lot since then.

No-one gets defensive or passionate when the next model of phone comes out and it has a better camera built into it. It's just the way technology evolves.

Also, you're making the fallacy of assuming new technology must necessarily yield better results, which might be often the case, but need not be (independently of my own personal preference for the KPA)

Yeah, once again, we should so have this.