Stomps on/off in rigmode; midi-controller

wiegersma · September 28, 2020 at 7:21 PM

My Line6 HD500X-floorboard is dying. I'm looking for a new midiboard to control the Kemper.

With the Line6 I can turn every stomp on or off in Rigmode.

Within a bank I can switch between 4 rigs/presets.

And ofcourse I can switch between banks.

This is the way I play live.

I like it that I can switch every stomp on or off.

I'm looking at the FCB1010. Looks fine to me, but all I can find is that you can switch only 5 stomps per rig instead of all 8. Is this true? Or can the FCB1010 switch every stomp on and off? Can the FCB do what the Line6 does? Does the wah need an switch to be turned on/off or can it be switched on by moving the pedal (so there are still 5 stomps left to assign to other stomps)?

Slyman · September 28, 2020 at 8:14 PM

To my knowledge, only 5 stomps with the FCB1010.

Unless someone found a way to use all 10 switches as stomps..............then please share!!!

wiegersma · June 27, 2021 at 11:09 AM

Due to corona, there was no urge for me to get a new midi-controller. Now I'm searching again. So, the question remains: what is a good alternative for a Line6 hd500x? Fcb1010 is not an alternative.

I would like the possibility

- to turn every individual stomp on/off

- to use built-in pedal(s) for volume and wah

- not to be too expensive.

What's on the market?

paults · June 28, 2021 at 3:45 PM

I don’t think you will be able to find a dedicated midi controller with 16 programmable switches (bank up/down, five rig select, eight stomp switches, tap tempo) and two built in pedals.

While the Kemper Remote may be more expensive than other options, the many hours you will save in programming time can easily offset the difference in price.

wiegersma · June 28, 2021 at 10:46 PM

Well, the Line6 does it quite fine with twelve switches and a dual-assignable footpedal. Just wondering if there are more alternatives that can do the same, or more.

Programming is done once and after that it's copy-paste and adjust the preset.

JEverly · June 28, 2021 at 11:16 PM

Quote from wiegersma

My Line6 HD500X-floorboard is dying. I'm looking for a new midiboard to control the Kemper.
With the Line6 I can turn every stomp on or off in Rigmode.
Within a bank I can switch between 4 rigs/presets.
And ofcourse I can switch between banks.
This is the way I play live.
I like it that I can switch every stomp on or off.
I'm looking at the FCB1010. Looks fine to me, but all I can find is that you can switch only 5 stomps per rig instead of all 8. Is this true? Or can the FCB1010 switch every stomp on and off? Can the FCB do what the Line6 does? Does the wah need an switch to be turned on/off or can it be switched on by moving the pedal (so there are still 5 stomps left to assign to other stomps)?

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How about something like a Ground Control Pro from Voodoo Lab? I have one that I used to use with my Axe FX. It doesn't have any limitations with how many of the switches you can have turned on at a time. It can also accept 2 expression pedals.

paults · June 28, 2021 at 11:42 PM

Quote from wiegersma

Well, the Line6 does it quite fine with twelve switches and a dual-assignable footpedal. Just wondering if there are more alternatives that can do the same, or more.
Programming is done once and after that it's copy-paste and adjust the preset.

Since you have already done the programming, you could get a used Line 6 for cheap (or even two) and clone them from your current pedal.

Yoda Guitar · June 29, 2021 at 7:10 AM

Suggestions:
- Roland FC-200 / FC-300
- Rocktron MIDI Raider
- Voodoo Lab Ground Control Pro

wiegersma · June 29, 2021 at 4:31 PM

Quote from paults

Since you have already done the programming, you could get a used Line 6 for cheap (or even two) and clone them from your current pedal.

Yes, you're right. forgot that part. Thanks

wiegersma · June 29, 2021 at 4:32 PM

Quote from Yoda Guitar

Suggestions:
- Roland FC-200 / FC-300
- Rocktron MIDI Raider
- Voodoo Lab Ground Control Pro

I will take a look, thanks

wiegersma · July 2, 2021 at 7:20 AM

Is the fcb1010 with the Eurekaprom-chip able to turn on/off all the stomps? Is that a good choice?

Burkhard · July 2, 2021 at 1:00 PM

It offers an effects page with dedicated buttons for each of the eight effect modules A-D, X, MOD, DLY, and REV plus Tempo and Tuner.

wiegersma · July 2, 2021 at 3:04 PM

Sound good. Wah- and volumepedals assignable, I presume. Sounds like a good alternative as well.

Burkhard · July 2, 2021 at 3:44 PM

I guess, it depends on the way you prefer to organize your sounds.

Most of the time I switch complete Rigs corresponding to musical scenes. I use switches for Morphing and Action&Freeze like Rotary Speed. I rarely switch individual effects on/off.

Others use more universal Rigs and switch effects on/off all the time and in all possible permutations. Then you need many effect buttons.

wiegersma · July 2, 2021 at 5:00 PM

I use universal rigs. Four rigs for every band I play in. Within those rigs I like to switch effects on and off. That's when a lot of buttons come in handy.

JEverly · July 2, 2021 at 5:19 PM

Quote from wiegersma

I use universal rigs. Four rigs for every band I play in. Within those rigs I like to switch effects on and off. That's when a lot of buttons come in handy.

That is pretty much how I do it. With having 5 rigs available in a performance, I can get away with one performance per band.

Sollazzon · July 12, 2021 at 10:16 AM

the fbcb1010 has 10 switch right?

With the native chip I ve programmed it to always have 4 different rig for any bank, tuner and tap tempo, and the remaining 4 switch are for turning on/off stomps A,B,C,D.

To control the other 4 FX stop I ve connected 2 double footswitches to the rear società of the KPA.

I' ll post a self explaining pic as soon as I' ll find it...but basically Yes.. you can do it with the fbcb1010

scratch17 · July 12, 2021 at 4:36 PM

RJM Mastermind GT22.