KPA toaster or stage?

Hey guys, i'm trying to get kemper but struggling which one is right for me, pretty much i'll just be playing at home.

A few questions:

1) Is stage faster than toaster? (Startup speed, Menu switching, etc)

2) Is stage still buggy now or have some reliability issues?

3) I'm aware of toaster has better UI than stage (easy to tweak on the panel), is that a problem if i'm using Rig Manager?

Need suggestions, Thanks!

Quote from Kellerblues

1-yes

2-no (never been)

3-no difference using RM

Thank you sir! helps a lot, i will just go with stage then.

Quote from ST

Hi, Mike.

I love the unpowered head (Toaster).

• The aesthetic, the vibe, the convenience of using the knobs, and easy to read display, but note: I have it at eye level while standing (because I play standing most of the time.
• The Remote is an essential part of the system - even just for playing at home.
• When making adjustments to your sound, you can do everything from the front panel.

I like the Stage,

• I use it for small gigs where portability is essential.
• It lives in a gig bag most of the time. I pull it out for updates and to sync it up with the Toaster and rehearse stagecraft. I don't play it much at home.
• Yes, the Stage is a little faster for Startup, but not so much that it matters to me.
• I dislike having to bend down to read the display and operate the buttons - but this is only an issue when making adjustments and creating Performances. You can use Rig Manager for most of that, but I don't take my computer to gigs. And a lot of the time, even at home, I just don't want to use a computer when I'm playing guitar.
• How many places do you want to look when adjusting your sound? (Floor, computer monitor).
• It has more flexibility for external stereo effects (nothing I use)

If I could have only one, for playing at home, I'd keep the Toaster.

I also have a powered rack unit. That's another story.

Glad you joined us.

Wow thanks for your detailed comment, what you mentioned is also I'm thinking about..the pro of toaster is keeping me struggling between those two.

The stage is new, i don't know, it might be improved in some way from the old toaster, like built in wifi module, but its not a key fator to me. I care more about stability, also the stage is new, I don't want to deal with bugs or glitches, the toaster seems fine after all its been on sale for so long.

Again thanks for you sharing experience.

Quote from ST

Hey Mike,

About the startup time - check out this thread.

Powerhead takes more than 1 minute to power up?

Thank you ST, i've checked it.

Quote from christianbad

ST already mentioned it, the stage has 2 sends an returns. I have an unpowered Toaster, and as i like to connect two speakers for stereo, i need to use the send for it, which i would love to have to insert my looper. Unfortunately that´s only possible with the stage.

I've already bought stage, arrives tommorrow.

Quote from ST

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Thank you ST, you've been helping all the time!

Quote from Wheresthedug

Although I’m not a fan of the all in one pedal board form factor at all, it is hard to argue with the features and price compared to the other options. I think you did the right thing.

Thanks, i hope so. It has cheaper price compare to toaster+remote, higher cost performance to me.