Posts by Steve5478

    I met the "problem" with delay ; i don't like a lot of feedback, so i set this parameter and don't touch at it anymore.....

    I would rather prefer having "time" setting on the fly instead of "feedback" for my needs.

    I can understand and i'm not convinced every parameters is necessary (grit, modulation, reverse, flutter, chorus, etc....)

    A Profiler tutorial to answer all your questions ;):

    It's not new but the principle is the same for the Player ;


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    You can check out tutorials Kemper Vids on the same channel to understand how Profilers works ;)

    I had the same problem yesterday.

    It happened once with Red Lights.

    And I had another problem that happened 4/5 times.

    I just had the logo in White lightning and nothing else, no more Light on the unit. I lost my Bluetooth connexion and could not change the rig on the unit. I didn't use rig manager on my phone. But I could still play and hear rig sound...

    It arrives at the end of a song on YouTube connected to the Player or when I change the song and pass to the next one. I had the problem with songster too.....

    Player on beta 1.1.2.

    I played disconnecting after and All was OK for a hour....

    The point is that if this level II upgrade was free for users of the bigger units and tied to their account, there wouldn’t be a license to sell, whether or not you wanted to buy another one in a couple of years. :)

    Edit: BUT you would get the benefit of having the same effects in your backup unit. And the backup of you backup. And so on.

    I really hope Kemper will listen to you :/;(:rolleyes:

    It would offer Kemper the possibility to for example offer the level II upgrade for free to owners of the bigger units without being worried about people flipping them for profit. If the update was free or heavily discounted, you wouldn’t take a loss when selling it either. The reason for keeping the upgrade license would of course be in case you would want to purchase a new one at a later time.

    I'm still disappointed and think that Kemper should find a solution for Bigger owners.....

    I understand they have to make new first-buyers hesitate between Player and Head/Stage/Rack too...

    I don't know if Kemper sellers would have interest to keep Upgrades' licences ? :/

    This is just link to Players for the moment, it means you think of buying another Player in 2/3 years ?! Imo, the buyers will search Players with upgrades too, to have a "used" price on thoses ones too.

    Am I living on planet kookoo? Read my earlier post. You bought a unit as it was. You feel robbed becasue they offer you a hardware upgade to make it a full fledged big brother unit in a small package. You feel robbed as compared to tuesday this week? Guess what, your unit is still the same as tuesdays unit if you do not like the thursday unit then that ok. Dont upgrade. Its a real show of people brain inners this is. An to make it even better its now been resurfaced that ck did say there would be chargable upgrades. Its almost funny this. Go buy a stage. How are you a hostage? Pretend you never heard about the upgrade

    Keep cool man,; peace and love :*

    I said the opposite ; i heard quickly that paid upgrades will come and this announcement made me buy the Player. They should not talk about it, in fact....

    But when i see conditions to sign :/:thumbdown:

    I just deliver my feelings here, i've got nothing against anybody there....

    The less we can say is that this decision causes a lot of ink to flow and is divisive, even here...

    What? So you bought this device not because it already answered your needs but because potentially, maybe, probably in the future, most likely it could answer your needs if theoretically, potentially, in some future, most likely, probably Kemper decided to give full upgrade away for cheap or better for free? Looks like you jumped the gun a bit with your purchase and feel disappointed (which I understand and sympathize - I have my fair share of past purchases which fall into this category as well - I guess everyone has :) ) - but, I would argue, this is not really Kemper's fault.

    You are asked to pay 40% for taking Player to Stage-level software-wise - which is hell-lot of new functionality that original player never had and probably will never have at Level I.

    That's exactly it !!!

    I've anticipated the futur upgrades because they were anounced (you used a lot of probaility but this fact was sure) and i knew that sooner or later i could transfer my rigs from my BIG unit to the baby.


    And, you are right, this is entirely my own fault.

    I should not have trust in one company i love(d) and has brought me a lot of pleasure and satisfaction during years.

    I should have been carefull cause love makes you blind and you become stupid.... I should have not thought about/considered what other companies offer to their loyal customers too.

    One more time, i don't automatically want free upgrades but 100-150€ would be a fair compromise imo....

    PS : piotrmaj Thanks for your non-agressive message even if i understand we are not on the same line :thumbup:;)

    I think it’s disingenuous to ask a company to sell a unit at less than half the cost of their others and expect it to have equal capacity for sound creation.

    I think it's especially aberrant to ask customers to pay 40% of the price you asked just 7 months before.

    I really feel like I'm being held hostage.

    C.K. announced quickly that there will probably be paid upgrades but he could announce that it would be far from trivial and that the price surplus would be surely important.....

    Bad surprise, bad day, bad disappointement....

    I really don't get the comparisons to buying used gear. Eventually you will see fully loaded players on reverb going for 4-500 bucks max. You can't compare the cost of a new product vs the cost of a used one. It makes no sense to the market.

    You are a guitarist/bassist and want to buy a new modeler/profiler, you study all the choices on the market, i don't understand why the used market has to be dismissed.

    A used Stage/Head/Rack is not a bad choice :);)

    Except the Stomp doesn’t have *nearly* the processing power of the larger units.


    The Player’s is identical.

    I'm not an electronic engineer and don't mind about what is inside..... I personnaly watch features and possibilities ;

    L6 purposes ;

    - The same FXs/ Amp/cab sims in the HX

    - Snapshots (for me = to Morph)

    - Same number of blocks as a Kemper Stage (and you can move them before or post stack)

    - You can still have // path

    Even if the number of blocks are reduced comparing to Helix LT/Floor, it would be enough for my needs and i could copy/paste all my rigs (preset) from a device to another one....

    I belive it would create second hand market very fast to upgerade cheaper as owner of other device then sell with guaranty for larger price.

    I also thought about it but it drives me mad too finally.

    All have been thought to make upgrades levels the number of FXs, what to give in each range, range of price, packages, etc....

    And nothing to thanks old Kemper's devices owners, it's a pity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They can check ; number of devices, how long you possess them, account name, email adress, IP

    But nothing in that sense too.....

    I just bought LVL2 and am very happy with it. Cheaper is always desired, I don't have money to give away, but feel that the added functionality is worth the price. Strange that everyone still resists so much to pay for software, arguing that they would get ripped off. People, creating good software is darn expensive...

    Usually, the software developpement (and updated) is drowned in the hardware price.

    I've bought my Stage the double i've bought my Helix (which needed programming too), it was an important financial effort i had to do but i didn't regret it.

    I'm not saying i want it all for free (even if i would like to) and i can catch this upgrade needs to pay something else but Kemper have done separates steps/levels, why can't they thanks loyal customers with a separate discount too ? It arrives sometimes in the commercial world, dunno ?!

    IMO, there are many levels in price point for customers :

    - Level 1 ; it's not expensive (or free) ; everyone agrees, it's very cool what we have for that price

    - Level 2 ; it's more important than expected but it's acceptable

    - Level 3 ; It's unacceptable, this price is insane, they really take me for a fool.....

    I'm in the third boat for the moment.....

    These devices are nothing but shells for software to run, what we really buy is the software.

    We are not talking about new features that require RnD and need time and money. It is pre existing stuff that the device could provide from day one and they just put them behind a paywall.

    They have lost time and programming to restrain the bigger units abilities ; THIS, is a new developpement....

    If it would represent an important amount of money, they would have launched a 900€ unit with all till the begining, it would have been much simplier....

    And we would have a clear view of the final price tag....