Engaging a drive in front of the stack cannot increase the volume of a clean rig, only gain/saturation.
True or False: Engaging a drive in front of the stack cannot increase the volume of a clean rig
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May 1, 2022 at 2:59 AM -
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True. But gain and saturation is perceived by humans as a volume increase.
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False for me. What are your Input settings?
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False for me. What are your Input settings?
Proof: Say you put a Vox ac30 volume on max. Adding a OD stomp in front will not make it any louder only saturate more which we would perceive as a higher volume. That's what I was taught. I believe the Kemper works the same way.
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False for me. What are your Input settings?
This behavior occurs regardless of clean/dist sens setting or the chosen overdrive.
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True. But gain and saturation is perceived by humans as a volume increase.
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Respectfully, not in a live mix.
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Respectfully, not in a live mix.
Which part? True or perceived by humans?
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Proof: Say you put a Vox ac30 volume on max.
I like your example: An amp turned up to maximum volume will likely not have any more headroom, and will compress with added gain, so no more volume. A clean amp setting (or edge of breakup) can have a different result.
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I like your example: An amp turned up to maximum volume will likely not have any more headroom, and will compress with added gain, so no more volume. A clean amp setting (or edge of breakup) can have a different result.
I just tested an M.Britt Fan Deluxe and the DAW meter peaks the same db from clean to adding a TS OD in front. But maybe something can be said for unison gain between the two, and then we need a rocket scientist to explain why. LOL. And pick attack changes the volume too.
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Proof: Say you put a Vox ac30 volume on max. Adding a OD stomp in front will not make it any louder only saturate more which we would perceive as a higher volume. That's what I was taught. I believe the Kemper works the same way.
That's not proof, that's simply an example of one scenario in a wide range of possibilities.
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please use descriptive & meaningful thread titles in the future instead of this clickbait-y stuff
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Clickbait?
I’m brand new to Kemper (4 days as of today). I had a genuine question about this behavior and figured that was the clearest way of asking. -
So, there seems to be more than one truth depending on the scenario of settings between the amp and the stomp. The correct answer would be "Yes and No", or "it depends".
I give up.
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Welcome to the Forum
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For example:
On a clean deluxe reverb profile, a kemper drive in front will not increase the rig volume no matter how high the volume or drive knobs. It will only saturate. This is regardless of any sens knob setting.
I am aware there are other ways to accomplish volume increases (morph, pure boost after stack, etc), but I would hope these workarounds are not necessary if there is a method someone could show me to utilize pre-stack drives for volume/solo boost as they are traditionally used.I really enjoy the unit so far, and would appreciate any insight available.
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Clickbait?
I’m brand new to Kemper (4 days as of today). I had a genuine question about this behavior and figured that was the clearest way of asking."True or False:"
This was your original title.
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True.
Increasing the volume of a boost or drive beyond 0db doesn’t increase the volume but it does increase the saturation of the tone. On the other hand reducing volume below 0db does reduce the volume of the rig. -
True.
Increasing the volume of a boost or drive beyond 0db doesn’t increase the volume but it does increase the saturation of the tone. On the other hand reducing volume below 0db does reduce the volume of the rig.Thank you for the response!
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So is this exactly what a tube amp does? ie: you can't get a volume boost for a solo with a drive pedal?
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So is this exactly what a tube amp does? ie: you can't get a volume boost for a solo with a drive pedal?
Of course you can
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