Mainly this improves the amp-sound authenticity when running through cabs? Not necessarily through PA speakers? My QSC K12's would sound a little too sterile for my liking.
Thanks much,
Ken
Mainly this improves the amp-sound authenticity when running through cabs? Not necessarily through PA speakers? My QSC K12's would sound a little too sterile for my liking.
Thanks much,
Ken
Yes all its true - tell me how many comparison real di from real amp vs di signal (profile kemper) had a chance to hear? you are so sure that what goes in a cab that is the same as in the case of real amp? if, of course, depend on that?
Stay Metal!
Absolutely none, nor do I care really. I am not a session or studio musician. I am primarily a live player.
So does someone want to write up a quick n00b friendly 'how to create a merged profile' tutorial?
Absolutely none, nor do I care really. I am not a session or studio musician. I am primarily a live player.
yes and and you bought and are using the Kemper because.....?
Stay Metal!
yes and and you bought and are using the kempera because.....?
Stay Metal!
I just said I'm primarily a live player?
considering I've owned mine for almost 3 years now, I know exactly what I want out of it and how I want to use it, and what applies to me personally
Nice! But how do I see if I play a "vintage old" type profile or a new DI/merged profile?
Easy...never import another Profile into your Kemper and the DI Profiles will forever be in "Last Imported".
Really makes me wonder why the guys that made the DI Profiles don't put a "DI" in front of the Profile name?
FW 3.0 is up and running and working like a charme. No problem there, BUT:
We have a new situation. There are loads of profile types now. Let's see:
- DI PROFILES: taken from the DI out/loop send of amp tops, right after the preamp, not to be confused with:
- DIRECT AMP PROFILES taken from the speaker out
- STUDIO PROFILES taken with microphones
- MERGED PROFILES in 3 types: with their own cab, or with a cab from another merged profile, or with IR cab
The first two types exist in both pre- and past-new-firmware versions.
So if i count this together i get eight(!) types of profiles and say we need a good tag system for profile names with clear definitions.
For example let's please stop calling direct amp profiles "DI profiles". That tag was used for preamp profiles (from loop send or line level direct out) in the past and using it now for speaker out profiles will only add to the confusion. Type in "DI" on rig exchange and see for yourself.
I don't know, maybe I've lost the plot, but here again I would say we've had this ability all along. Version 3.0 will presumably improve tone in this configuration, but I've been running into a cab for a while.Unless you're referring to the ability to run to a cab while simultaneously running the amp+cab signal to FOH?
No, previously, you could of course run the amp into the cab, but the separation between the profile carried some portion of the cab, so it was hard to truly identify this using cabdriver alone.
Ver.3.0 now lets you profile each one seperatly, and then merge them, this means you will get the benefit of having the Amp sounding very authentic IF you use the same type of speaker/cab.. these are called "Merged Profiles" So, running into a cab will isoloate the Amp section and be realistic to you liek the real amp is. (aslong as its profiled correctly, and care has been taken)
IF your playing through Monitors/FOH speakers then you wont notice any difference. as it will be using the profile the same as your used too.
The other advantage is that you can saftly use your own IR's to change the sound. with better autenticy than what was possible before.
QuoteNo, previously, you could of course run the amp into the cab, but the separation between the profile carried some portion of the cab, so it was hard to truly identify this using cabdriver alone.
Yes, that's exactly as I understand it. Still more a matter of improvement vs. a new capability.
It occurs to me that one of the biggest differences now is a Direct Amplifier Profile contains absolutely no trace of a microphone's tone and placement.
It occurs to me that one of the biggest differences now is a Direct Amplifier Profile contains absolutely no trace of a microphone's tone and placement.
Yes!
This is great news! I'm in the middle of some projects, so I'm hesitant to upgrade to a Beta, I may wait until it's a few weeks in for updates
Cab & amp separation is really great now, to test it I fount an easy way : either lock an amp you like or a cab and scroll to other 3.0 rigs and browse , possibilities are endless.
Brilliant tech Mr Kemper !
It occurs to me that one of the biggest differences now is a Direct Amplifier Profile contains absolutely no trace of a microphone's tone and placement.
Yes - this simplifies things to the point where I'm looking forward to profiling some amps of my own, despite not having the greatest mics, room, etc. I think the end result for a lot of us will be fewer, more authoritative amp profiles to mix and match with cab profiles as needed. Next question: which direct box?
Does the new firmware also means that we can get the "in the room" sound now? I'm not sure how the cabinet profile is taken...
Which direct box?
Well, there IS a long thread dedicated to that question;)
Which direct box?
Well, there IS a long thread dedicated to that question;)
Which thread?
QuoteWell, there IS a long thread dedicated to that question;)
Sorry about that - can't seem to find it. If you happen to be bored out of your skull at some point, please paste a link.
my profiles for example were made with a cheap Behringer Ultra-G100, some others of mine with the Lineout of a Jet City Jettentuator (works if you dont use much attenuation)
Used a THD Hotplate for my tests.