So I have spent some time pulling up profiles from RE and running them thru my newly purchased Kabinet. I was pretty happy with the sounds until I went back and compared the Kabinet with my Mesa Thiele 1-12 cabinet. The sound is much fuller and more dynamic with my cabinet. I have been using the Kemper Kone "On" in the output settings with my comparisons. It really improves the tone coming from the cabinet. My gut feeling is return the Kabinet and spend the money on a much needed new wireless rig. Has anyone else had the same experience? I love Kemper products and was genuinely surprised at how much better my cab sounded.
Kemper Kabinet vs Guitar Cabinet
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April 8, 2020 at 9:31 PM -
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Can you explain a little bit more?You mean it push more air....
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No I mean the Mesa cab just sounds better. Not a matter of pushing air. The cab just sounds fuller. I experimented with bass boost on the Kabinet but it didn’t help. I’m playing low to medium gain profiles for rock music. And yes I read the manual before I even plugged it in.
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I returned mine for similar reasons though I’m a high gain player.
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I'm guessing you may have a cab that sounds better to you- especially as your ears are "tuned" and used to your cab. The Kab definitely has the edge in flexibility in tones. Your cab will always sound like your cab.
I have and love a 4x12 & a 2x12, but snagging the 1x12 Kab made sense in a lot of ways to me. I think it's a fantastic product!
Keep in mind this all about improving the user's 1on1 experience with the amp. Studio and live, everyone else will hear the di sound from Kemper (which is amazeballs).
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it would be very interesting to see someone actually put the Kone in a thiele cab and give their verdict. The Kabinet is fairly narrow so likely wont get the bass kick in comparison to a deeper cabinet
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that’s interesting. I have a pair of Mesa Thiele EVM12L cab and a Kabinet. They definitely sound different but I’m really impressed with the Kabinet.
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that’s interesting. I have a pair of Mesa Thiele EVM12L cab and a Kabinet. They definitely sound different but I’m really impressed with the Kabinet.
i wonder how much of a cabinet people are listening to in preference to judging the Kone itself
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Thiele cabs are all about tuned bass resonance, either by a front ported or open back design.
If that's what you like (and more important - are used to) then that's fine of course, but you are comparing two pretty different design approaches - a Kone in a Thiele cab would be a more 'even' comparison I think. -
I'm going to pop the Kone in one of my Thiele cabs and A/B them when I get a chance. It seems to me that the imprint has the characteristics of the EV speaker but, as you say, the cabinet is totally different and plays a massive part in the sound.
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Thiele cabs are all about tuned bass resonance, either by a front ported or open back design.
If that's what you like (and more important - are used to) then that's fine of course, but you are comparing two pretty different design approaches - a Kone in a Thiele cab would be a more 'even' comparison I think.Don, you hit it right on the head. My Thiele is front ported. Much more low end presence. I'm going to try dialing in Output EQ with the Kabinet.
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Don, you hit it right on the head. My Thiele is front ported. Much more low end presence. I'm going to try dialing in Output EQ with the Kabinet.
thanks
the bass ports are usually resonating at a pretty well defined frequency, whereas the Output EQ is a low shelf type.
You probably need a Studio EQ with a rather narrow bass boost anywhere from 80-150Hz to approximate this. -
I m really interested how will Klone cab sound in Thiele Box...and also the transparent comparison between Thiele Messa and Kemper Kabinet ?
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I’m interested in this as well
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C Bude někdy pro Kemper profiler head postaven aktivní reprobox ?
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Best of both worlds: two Kones in a 2x12 cab. Sounds absolutely MASSSSSIVE.
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Best of both worlds: two Kones in a 2x12 cab. Sounds absolutely MASSSSSIVE.
This looks awesome!
Talk about that pedal integration you have goin on
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This looks awesome!
Talk about that pedal integration you have goin on
Thanks! Only a compressor and drives running into the front of the Kemper. The Waggi W28 board stores them neatly under the Remote. I’m still deciding which drives to keep on there. The Jackson Golden Boy, Greer Lightspeed, and Wampler Tumnus are solid but I’m not loving the 1981 DRV. Might just stick with the three above and omit a fuzz.
What else would you like to know?
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Epilogue: I ended up returning the Kabinet and got my wireless rig. Enjoying just playing instead of trying to decide which speaker option sounds best. Loving my Kemper more than ever now. Hope everyone is staying healthy.
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