Hi guys, i have a problem when i tune down half step or more. When i program it, a slight echo or dubble effect arrives. I have seen Thomas Dill in a Kpa workshop. He showes this feature and it works great. At home i tryed it, but for me it sounds bad, like two signal. Any idea?
regards
frank from germany
Tune down effect do not work correct
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Eltzejupp -
March 16, 2015 at 6:44 PM -
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Make sure you're not just hearing the guitar acoustically.
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I am sure. The slight effect comes out of my kpa.
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Could you post a recording? Also, check the mix parameter, if it's not 100% some of the direct signal will come through.
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You can also check parallel path option.
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Hey, thanks for your quick tips. I will try it and post the result
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Hi guys, i tryed it with my earphones on. alwainwright was right. I heard a part of the acoustic signal, but i mean there is still a little hall effect when i tune down. When i switch back to normal tuning the effect dissapears. @ Robrecht: Which Mix Parameter do you mean? The Mix Parameter in the amplifier? In Transpose effect, there is no Mix Parameter.Parallel signal path is not in use. Do i have to set "Smooth chords" on top of the Transpose display?
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Hi guys, i tryed it with my earphones on. alwainwright was right. I heard a part of the acoustic signal, but i mean there is still a little hall effect when i tune down. When i switch back to normal tuning the effect dissapears. @ Robrecht: Which Mix Parameter do you mean? The Mix Parameter in the amplifier? In Transpose effect, there is no Mix Parameter.Parallel signal path is not in use. Do i have to set "Smooth chords" on top of the Transpose display?
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Sorry,but there is no Mix in the Transpose Effect. No Page button light is on, to choose another page. I have the latest software update on it. Can you explain?
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Ah, but you may be right -- just about every effect has a mix parameter (all the way to the right) so that's the first thing I thought of, but apparently the Transpose effect doesn't. Sorry -- I'm not with my KPA right now so I'm going on my memory (note to self: I should really check things first if I'm not 100% sure so I don't cause any more confusion, even if that means waiting until I get home... ).
The Smooth chords setting is for when you play chords. It makes them sound better. It adds a little extra latency though, so if you only play single notes you should leave it off.
Still, what you're hearing might be the inherent latency of all pitch shift effects? The KPA is relatively fast but the nature of the pitch conversion inevitably adds some delay.
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I use the transpose to tune down from drop D to drop B and I have no issues at all it tracks very well. Like Robrecht mentioned it might just be the inherent latency of the transpose effect there is always going to be some.
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Agree - you will always have some latency with this kind of effect becouse you have to record some buffer to play it back at different speed. The rest of the algorithm is cross window technique to minimize window effect distortion.
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I noticed that reflection of notes being there when i played with the transpose effect (even when transposed just 1 semitone). One way i was able to mask it was using a pedal (can't remember if it was overdrive or distortion) after the transpose one. I could still notice it on headphones after that, but it was so subtle that it didn't bother me anymore.
The other thing that i can think of is that if you are having that problem and others aren't it might be that your pickups are too hot and you might try playing with the clear and distorted sense options. I might be wrong here on that one tho, but i do remember it being more noticeable on my guitar with hotter pickups.
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I ll check it out. I mostely use jem guitars with evolution pick ups (Steve Vai). These pick ups have a beast inside.....
But i think it was the latency. Thank you all for the answers!!! -
Make sure Transpose is PRE stack in stomp A.
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Make sure Transpose is PRE stack in stomp A.
GOT IT!
It seems that in the stomp X there is delay, not in stomp A.
thanks!