I would prefer to use the same capture alongside MK1 and MK2, with a mic signal splitter. But I suppose they will eventually be compared.
Posts by DamianGreda
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There is a lot of new competition for Kemper since the new profiling was announced in May. IK upgraded to V2 profiling, NDSP also had a major firmware update, Line6 announced and released the Stadium which will have profiling soon, Fractal announced their next product will have profile playback, there are many new profilers like Xrecer, ....
Kemper is doing things to react to the competition, like the Player and the new profiling, but it's possible all these changes in the competitive landscape since May have caused Kemper to reevaluate their plans and maybe that's the reason for the delay.
I tend to agree. The whole landscape is shifting, especially now that even the free tools are getting major updates. Everything has changed—and it’s going to keep changing faster and faster.
It’s tough to compete with tools that suddenly empowered huge numbers of users through prompt‑based workflows. That kind of accessibility changes the game overnight.
Dedicated hardware solutions still have their niche, but probably not for long. We’re already seeing hardware popping up with open‑source firmware, and that’s going to push things even further.
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It's important to the people who dropped thousands of dollars on MK2 units with the promise of 2.0. Kemper literally sold these products on the promise of 2.0 profiling.
Yes, it's delayed and that can happen. But please do not simply dismiss 2.0 as "not that important".Funny when it comes to other Funny thing is, that exact argument used to be everyone’s main weapon when talking about other “game‑changing” technologies. And now suddenly it’s not supposed to matter?
Either way, I really hope Kemper drops their 2.0 soon and shows something genuinely better — especially since so many people bought the MK2 specifically because of that promised feature.
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So they built all this hype… and now we’re stuck in the classic de—… de… de……… de…………… de……………lay. Honestly, if there’s a reason, fine — but it’s hard not to feel like the Kemper team lit the fireworks and then forgot to show up for the show. Momentum was there, excitement was there… delivery, not so much.
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It isn't an excuse - and not meant to be one. It's their history - and people are behaving as if its a 'new thing'.
Treating what's been true for years as a slight. Like it or not - to be any other way would be out of character
'Sinking ship' - really?
Well Maybe it's because of the hype they're creating. I'm not a fan of that. I have realistic expectations.
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Since when has Kemper been 'transparent'?
Seriously? When has that ever been a thing around here? The new delays and verbs? Kemper Drive and Fuzz? The new trems? Rig Manager's release? Anyone see the Stage coming before it was released? The Player? The upgrades for the Player?
NONE of that was 'transparent'. Nor was any of it out of character for the last 8 or so years I've been around here.
Even the moderators take crap for answering it 'too curt' a manner. "They aren't polite."
Sinking ship? Ban or no ban, downvotes or outright hostility towards me - that's not being upset - that's hysterics.
They missed and don't say much....like they pretty much have every single time before.
To be honest, that's not an excuse. But deep down, I know what it's like. It's not a fairy tale — it's hard work. I understand the KPA team. They have their own goals that we are not aware of. All we can do right now is wait.
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In the end I think that Profiling 2.0 is not that important because the tools presented by KPA are unique in a way, and I will definitely keep this device. Whether it's because of the effects or the ability to extract additional parameters such as Pick or clarity. However, if I need tools that more accurately mimic the sound of an amplifier for studio sessions, I can use free ones that do the job perfectly.
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In my honest opinion, the KPA team is trying to achieve the best possible outcome with the current hardware architecture, and they certainly don't want to fail at this task. Whether this will be competitive with other solutions is unclear. But I am sure that they just don't want to introduce any problems for users of their equipment on stage during this process. I guess this may be the reason why it is taking so long. They want to make sure it is backwards and forwards compatible.
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At this point I’m convinced Kemper is just waiting for our hype to burn itself out.
They probably thought the recent world‑shaking events would distract us for at least a week… maybe two.But nope.
Civilization can wobble, history can rewrite itself in real time, and this forum is still here like:“Yeah yeah, global milestones, whatever — where’s the new MK2 firmware?”
Kemper HQ must be watching this thinking:
“Okay… they’re not getting distracted. Plan B?”


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The Kemper high gain profiles/rigs never sounded good enough. I was never happy. I constantly - for at least the last ten years - been unhappy with the Kempers high gain sounds. High gain for extreme metal. The Player - from the get go - sounds great pretty much no matter what profile/rig/IR I pull up.
I wouldn't be surprised if your old toaster had a setting issue or corrupted settings.
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I'm surprised that this post hasn't gotten any responses. I have heard contradictory narratives regarding Kemper using predefined amp models vs doing 'full' profiling such as NAM. I don't know the answer and wonder how others seem to have facts about this?
Well, I actually don't agree with this assumption, but I also don't think it captures everything like NAM does. I don't have any knowledge about it. I just have some clues that KPA uses the Hammerstein-Wiener model with some filtering . So it is more of a mathematical approximation than a neural network. But I may be wrong and have no idea if this is true.
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You and I are speaking of two different things. There is recorded sound, analyzing the accuracy of one sound to another, etc. I speak of what the device does while you are using it. There are subtle improvements that the player has (in the form of magic I suppose) that have improved dynamics and feel in response to my guitar. Its there and noticeable. 2.0 profiling will be a tremendous improvement in that regard, from what I have heard Mr. Kemper describe.
I was playing yesterday after using other gear for a couple of days and I was reminded just how good Kemper is. It is the best of the best on a lot of fronts.
I don't need to comment on this thread anymore. Some of us who have the new devices and also the OG have repeatedly stated that they are improved, even when using our previous rigs/profiles. For some reason its rubbing peoplethe wrong way with the crazy idea that newer processors improve things. go figure.You’d only be able to perceive a difference that others can’t hear in reamping if latency were involved. Otherwise, any improvement in dynamics would show up in the reamp as well. Actually latency is something you can objectively measure when comparing MKI and MKII reamps too.
To me, what you’re describing sounds highly subjective—science would frame it as a cognitive bias rather than an actual sonic change. There’s nothing to arggument about. We’re all susceptible to these kinds of perceptual errors.
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It's documented in the MIDI Parameter Documentation. Your "66" must be wrong.
Voice 1 Interval is 62
Voice 2 Interval is 63
The User Scales themselves are global and not related to any particular effect module. You can set these up on address page 118.
I guess the op want to set User Scale instead of inteval.
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Have you tried to use MIDI monitor like MIDI OX and turning on UI to MIDI option on the KPA? You can get SYSEx message then.
So for slot MOD and first voice it will be :
SYSX: F0 00 20 33 00 00 01 00 3A 3E 00 58 F7
this give's us :
Decimal- CC99 (NRPN MSB) = 58
- CC98 (NRPN LSB) = 62
- CC06 (Data Entry MSB) = 0
- CC38 (Data Entry LSB) = 88
Hex
- 63 3A
- 62 3E
- 06 00
- 26 58
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Nope I don't know, they have just said that it will not change the ability to run 2 profiles so based upon that I think its a fair statement. They have only said they have changed the level of detail for each profile. So its an improved version, not a full re-write.
I also didn't say it couldn't be done or its not possible, its the amount of time and re-writing that I suspect its not worth it. As I understand it, the whole profiling architecture is based upon this approach. It took many years to develop it this way. They would have to fully re-architect the whole platform I believe...
However, I don't work for Kemper, and despite being an IT guy ( in both senses - I work in IT and my names Guy) I'm only piecing together what has been said recently and in the past. It has been requested many times to be able to run multiple profiles and we have had the same answer.
I could be wrong and I hope for your sake I am, Im just trying to explain why this isn't as a simple as just convert a file...
I agree with you. Sometimes I think that maybe the KPA AMP+CAB process is not as demanding of DSP as most people think. Perhaps the whole KPA architecture logic is the problem or just maybe you will get better results using build in algorithmic FX.
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Sorry to be a bit of a grinch, but I'm not sure what the point of this is?
Some people say they notice a difference but all acknowledge that its slight and subtle.
So if you prove they are the same, those people will continue to disagree. If you say they are different, Kemper will say that's not correct, so a variation in the input gain ( where the units do differ).
That sound change is not enough to justify replacing, but I expect MK2 profiling to be that step change.
Therefore this will for me just be a bit of a pointless exercise...
Sorry, promise I won't moan anymore...for now

One of the points is to have a reference point for comparing the new MK2 profiles. If we know that the old profiles sound the same on both devices, it is much better to compare the differences between the architectures of profiles MK 1 and MK 2. And since opinions started to appear that for the same MK I profile different people hear differences for newer devices, we wanted to check it out.
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Its easy. The MK2 has better clarity and dynamics. No problem.
The new profiling requires new hardware. The MK2 is new hardware that supports 2.0. DSP is different.
From interviews done on 2.0 - 2.0 profiles load on MK 1 units but "won't sound as good"; supports Liquid Profiling toggle; new cab resonance control."
So the inverse must be true.
If people are tired of this discussion already, you will want to hibernate once its released. Just like it is now you will have two camps. The measurement camp who will endlessly present "scientific" proof that it is less than it ought to be. And the camp that uses ears and guitar and determine it sounds and feels better.
2.0 is going to stir it up real good in my opinion. Shoot, we can't even agree that the hardware has been improved.People perceive things differently. Take the quality of audio Voodoo speaker cables, for example. These can be very expensive. The more expensive they are, the more people claim to hear the difference
. But none of them can prove that this is measurable. What we discussed was whether the old MKI profile sounds different on the MKI and MKII units. Nothing more. For now it seems nothing has changed when it comes to pure DSP algrithm when it comes to old MKI profiles for old and new units. -
I think reamping the same material through USB or S/PDIF should produce the same results for the same profile, as no analogue path will be involved. If there are any differences when reamping via an analogue path, they will probably be due to an AD/DA path upgrade, but I guess they will be subtle. If someone hear dramatic change than it could be some issue with device(old unit or new unit) or profile settings.
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Here it is... Note that the MK1 is somewhere bad ...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/73VYrpDl0bw
Enjoy !
It sounds like different settings . There's no way such a difference is purely down to the new MK2 model.