Playing Metal without Bass - how to achieve more low-end?

rawberry2 · February 16, 2024 at 9:33 AM

Hi!

I am playing solo, mainly with a looper. I don´t use a bass guitar, I play Doom Metal in E-tuning.

I have a rhythm profile and a lead profile I use.

The rhythm one is focused on lower mids, the lead one vice versa.

What I´d like is a little bit more low end on the rhythm profile. For now I am using a pitch shifter activated in the pre amp section, mixed in by ~50%. It´s good, but still not perfect.

Do you have any hint I could use to get a bit more tighter and present low end? For example putting a pitch shifter in the post amp section?

Thanks in advance!

Bakersounds · February 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM

Hi rawberry2 I would say, don't be afraid to use the bass, middle and treble knobs. Or put an EQ behind the stack section and find out which frequencies you need to be more present.

chu · February 19, 2024 at 12:29 PM

Try a parallel path, put a pitch shifter in the the parallel path an octave down and then experiment with others for the second effect, but I'd likely the pitch shift post any dirt for clearer tracking

paddyc · February 20, 2024 at 3:21 PM

Yeah you can fake it - but why?

You may not realise how enjoyable a real bass is to play. You don't need to spend a fortune either, secondhand or new. For instance you can get something like an Axe Heaven bass from thomann for thirty five quid, or 40 US.

I'm sure I paid about that the last time I bought a set of bass strings

Ruefus · February 20, 2024 at 4:00 PM

Quote from paddyc

Yeah you can fake it - but why?
You may not realise how enjoyable a real bass is to play. You don't need to spend a fortune either, secondhand or new. For instance you can get something like an Axe Heaven bass from thomann for thirty five quid, or 40 US.
I'm sure I paid about that the last time I bought a set of bass strings

He's a solo performer, using a looper. Playing bass in that context won't really work.

My suggestion would be to look at the Boss OC-5. For the money, I'm not aware of anything quite like it.

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BayouTexan · February 20, 2024 at 4:15 PM

Why not play your guitar with Transpose at -12 with a Bass Profile and loop that. Then play regular guitar over that. The trick to getting a convincing bass sound is to use the middle pickup ( or both pickups for HH setup) and a very light pick (0.45 - 0.50mm).

Wheresthedug · February 21, 2024 at 9:24 AM

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He's a solo performer, using a looper. Playing bass in that context won't really work.

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V8guitar · February 27, 2024 at 11:53 AM

Defo look to use an octaver as just increasing bass I suspect won;t cover the sonic space as well.

In other words, do the opposite of Royal Blood ( Bass player has an octave higher)...

musicmad · February 27, 2024 at 3:49 PM

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It does inflict a few limitations from a composition perspective