Question on Editing Snapshots

SonicExporer · February 11, 2017 at 6:08 AM

Hey Guys,

Please help me understand something about snapshots.....

If I take a snapshot and then later load that snapshot and make a change to it, how do I save it? If I go through the usual "store" sequence is it going to over-write the actual rig which the snapshot was originally based? Or do I instead hit Snapshot again? (Problem with the latter approach is I end up with two snapshots of the same name and then have to go back and delete the earlier one)

Any guidance here is appreciated, thanks.....

Sonic

paults · February 11, 2017 at 6:14 AM

If you "Store" the snapshot as a rig, it will not replace an existing rig. It will be a new rig, with the new stored date.

SonicExporer · February 11, 2017 at 8:46 AM

Hmmm....so there is no way then to edit a snapshot? Either you end up having to store a new rig or store a new snapshot?

nightlight · February 11, 2017 at 9:32 AM

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Hmmm....so there is no way then to edit a snapshot? Either you end up having to store a new rig or store a new snapshot?

AFAIK, you'll have to manually delete the old snapshot if you don't want it.

skoczy · February 11, 2017 at 2:19 PM

Quote from SonicExporer

Hey Guys,

Please help me understand something about snapshots.....

If I take a snapshot and then later load that snapshot and make a change to it, how do I save it? If I go through the usual "store" sequence is it going to over-write the actual rig which the snapshot was originally based? Or do I instead hit Snapshot again? (Problem with the latter approach is I end up with two snapshots of the same name and then have to go back and delete the earlier one)

Any guidance here is appreciated, thanks.....

Sonic

Hi Sonic

When you edit a snapshot, you can store it as a new rig (STORE button) or you can save new snapshot (Store Snapshot - 4th soft button) - you can't replace snapshot with the current one just edited.
When you load a snapshot, edit it and store snapshot again, it is saved with the same name but different timestamp, what you can observe in RIG -> Browse Snapshots menu in Date field.

Hope that helps.

patvalley · February 11, 2017 at 3:50 PM

Skoczy described the current process perfectly.

I created a thread in the Feature Requests forum a few years ago and am still hoping for changes in how snapshots are handled
Ability to replace/store as/rename snapshots and section presets (Input/Output settings)

SonicExporer · February 12, 2017 at 4:53 AM

Thanks for the explanation guys.

Sonic

paults · February 12, 2017 at 4:57 AM

Adding a Snapshot view to Rig Manager could be useful, too.

SonicExporer · February 12, 2017 at 5:15 AM

I wonder if there is a reason Snapshots aren't a category in the Browse pool? Would sure make auditioning, tweaking, and managing them a lot easier. Or maybe the ability to create a custom folder. That's really all I'm using Snapshots for is a way to have an area to store tweaked profiles. I use the Favorites to isolate a few dozen preferred rigs out of the hundreds loaded, and then use Snapshots to store & experiment with custom tweaks of the Favorites for actual tracking. You may even need different tweaks of the same rig depending upon guitar, tuning, or song style. This requires something more than a Favorites folder to accommodate this kind of work flow. So for now I'm using Snapshots. But it would be even better to be able to create custom folders.

Sonic

skoczy · February 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM

Quote from paults

Adding a Snapshot view to Rig Manager could be useful, too.

Snapshots are rigs after all.

Burkhard · February 16, 2017 at 2:20 PM

I guess, Snapshots might be the function least used in the Profiler.

The idea is to create a few variations of the same Rig with minor variations e. g. of Gain, store those temporarily as Snapshots in order to switch back and forth, shorten the list by deleting non-favorables and at the end select the best and then store that as Rig in Browse Pool. This could well be an iterative approach. If you want to add further variations at some point you can edit and add another Snapshot. And then proceed shortening the list.

The idea is not to create a parallel Rig universe with capabilities like editing, store as/replace/rename, favorite Snapshots, sorting Snaphsots by Gain, assigning MIDI PCs to Snapshots.... That's what we have Rigs for.

creative360 · February 17, 2017 at 2:49 AM

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Burkhard · February 17, 2017 at 11:27 AM

Rig saving offers exactly that. For Presets that's on our to do list. Snapshots are for "quick and dirty" comparison and selection, not even worth entering different names. And if you find that too limiting, you can use Rigs.

SonicExporer · February 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM

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Rig saving offers exactly that. For Presets that's on our to do list. Snapshots are for "quick and dirty" comparison and selection, not even worth entering different names. And if you find that too limiting, you can use Rigs.

Is there any plan to allow users to add new folders (or groups) so users can better organize things? Instead of relying on just Favorites?

Burkhard · February 17, 2017 at 12:01 PM

We offer multiple Views and Sort By criteria, we are not envisioning folders.

The sound collection should be held in Rig Manager, which offers multiple folder levels. The Browse Pool of the Profiler should be limited to those sounds you really play. In that case Views like My Rigs, Favorites, Just Bass combined with Sort By criteria like By Gain, By Author, By Amp/Cab help to effectively find any particular sound. Plus Performance Mode allows to organize sounds in alignment with musical scenes, songs, set list and independently from your Browse Pool.