ERROR profiling amp. (No external amp connected or volume too low)

Quote from LisavanDijk

The tital says it all.
I already tried turning the return level up and down. nothing help.

The error message is pretty clear. Either you didn´t connect your setup correctly or the the mic volume into the return input is to too low. If you monitor the reference amp in the profiler setup just compare the level of the signal to the level of the starting profile (Kemper amp).

make sure that you are using the return input and not the alternative input on the back of the Profiler.

which microphone
maybe you need phantom power for it

please describe exactly how you connected everything.

guitar -> INPUT
SEND -> amp input
etc.

it should look like this
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and you should hear your mic'ed amp when "Reference amp" is selected (no point to start profiling if you don't hear your amp at this point (Profiling Assistant page 1/3)

hth

please take a simple guitar cable and use it to connect the Profiler's send to the Profiler's return
send -> cable -> return
make a profile (it will be obviously be a completely clean Profile)
does the profiling work now?

I'm having exactly the same problem, I'm sure I connected it right
I'm trying to make a DIRECT AMP PROFILE using the Kemper DI box.
So just the pre-amp and power-amp skipping the cab (no mic is used in my setup)

My setup is as follows:
Kemper Direct out -> Maxon 808 In -> Amp input
Amp output (after poweramp 8 Ohms where you would connect to the cab) -> Kemper DI 'FROM AMPLIFIER".
Kemper DI 'TO CABINET -> Cabinet In
Kemper DI 'PROFILER INPUT' XLR -> Kemper 'RETURN INPUT' (XLR).
No laptop with rig manager connected.

The test connecting send and return (shorcut) suggested by @DonPetersen did result in a clean profile succesfully.

I turned up the volume while profling and it did finish the profiling stage in some cases.
In the case where it succeeded and did a 'refine profile' afterwards and press STORE to save the profile but somehow the RIG meta data showed data of one of the profiles that was already existing on the Kemper.

Now I'm totally confused because:

• Why does profiling only intermittently succeeds?
  How loud does the amp need to be set to?
• Why in the case a profile was created succesfully when I store the profile (without making modifcations in the AMP TAGS) it shows AMP TAGS from a complete different profile that is already on the Kemper

Thanks in advance.
Mauce

Quote from MetalMauce

• Why in the case a profile was created succesfully when I store the profile (without making modifcations in the AMP TAGS) it shows AMP TAGS from a complete different profile that is already on the Kemper

Tag info from the Profile that was active when you switched to Profiler mode is always kept. This makes it much easier and faster if you take several Profiles of basically the same setup with minor variations.

I am having the same problem with my brand new Stage. My connections are as following:

- Guitar in KPA Stage

- Send 1 to Amp Input

- Mic is a Sennheiser e906 which goes into the Return 1 of the KPA

After a few seconds of UFO noise I get the error message mentioned above.

Quote from DonPetersen

please take a simple guitar cable and use it to connect the Profiler's send to the Profiler's return
send -> cable -> return
make a profile (it will be obviously be a completely clean Profile)
does the profiling work now?

Even when I am doing this I get the same error message.

Quote from fblome

I am having the same problem with my brand new Stage. My connections are as following:

- Guitar in KPA Stage

- Send 1 to Amp Input

- Mic is a Sennheiser e906 which goes into the Return 1 of the KPA

After a few seconds of UFO noise I get the error message mentioned above.

Even when I am doing this I get the same error message.

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what is the value of the return level parameter in the Profiling menu?

-32db (default, I never touched this)

Quote from fblome

-32db (default, I never touched this)

try to raise it towards something around zero and try again. The default value on mine is -16dB.

OK, profiling the send->return-bridge does work now.

But the amp profiling not. I checked the cables, the mic and everything. Looks good. When I play guitar I get sound out of the Amp.

Where is my mistake?

Ok, with a return level of -10 dB it did work.

But the result is this screen which a displayed since the last 5 minutes.

Looks like you asked it to refine the profile. This requires you to play some guitar until you are happy then hit Finish to stop the refining process. It looks like it is waiting for you to hit finish.