I believe that an official editor will see the light sooner or later. Consequently, Kemper will IMO be having a look at what's already "on the market" while developing their own concept of an editor, but they won't let anything interfere with Eng. Kemper's vision, which will most probably imply different approaches\functions\implementations than this "open source".
To summarize, the future KAOS versions will IMO be developed with this scenario in mind rather than in terms of avoiding potential collisions with the KPAECP.
KPAEditor Community Project(vst, standalone, win, mac , linux ) - based on http://ctrlr.org/ .
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I believe that an official editor will see the light sooner or later. Consequently, Kemper will IMO be having a look at what's already "on the market" while developing their own concept of an editor, but they won't let anything interfere with Eng. Kemper's vision, which will most probably imply different approaches\functions\implementations than this "open source".
To summarize, the future KAOS versions will IMO be developed with this scenario in mind rather than in terms of avoiding potential collisions with the KPAECP.
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Any insiders' information guys?
I think it would be great to have some official insight on these, so that Damian and his colleagues don't put too much effort and time in this for nothing.
As far as I can remember, Kemper has never acknowledged the need for an editor.
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Any insiders' information guys?
No, just speculation. IMO the demand for an editor is so overwhelming they simply cannot ignore it.
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This is really great work!
TBH, I - in my current use - do not need this, as my Kemper sits directly next to my Computer, but I am sure, if this progresses, I will become a heavy user of that [Blocked Image: http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/wcf/images/smilies/wink.png]Another question: Can you read out the complete kipr file and save it on the computer? Would it be hard work to put such a reading, saving and loading function into a VST, so that one could save the current rig used fpr a track directly ind the DAW right on this track? So if you later want to add or change this track, you could just click on the VST to load the kipr that yu used before...
I once put a feature request for this - however, this was flushed away buy a flood of other good ideas - and of course spring reverb [Blocked Image: http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/wcf/images/smilies/wink.png]
http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/index.ph…-DAW-Interface/?CU and THANKS AGAIN!!!!
Well - I just tried to send rig to the KPA with SYSEX and its working:) I was just looking into USB traffic with Rig manager and i can tell you that RIG MANAGER uses standard midi sysex to communicate with KPA.
So i just think all communication with KPA is based on MIDI [Blocked Image: http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/wcf/images/smilies/smile.png]
This is example for WD-metalbass clean upload with sysex:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/himvpoeipy6d…ndRig.txt?raw=1The kpir files has a lot of F0 F7 sequences- besides the header part:) Open one and see for yourself:)
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No, just speculation. IMO the demand for an editor is so overwhelming they simply cannot ignore it.
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<p>Whell - I just tried to send rig to the KPA with SYSEX and its working:) I was just looking into USB traffic with Rig manager and i can tell you that RIG MANAGER uses standart midi sysex to comunnicate with KPA.</p>
<p>So i just think all communication with KPA is based on MIDI [Blocked Image: http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/wcf/images/smilies/smile.png]<br />
This is example for WD-metalbass clean upload with sysex:<br />
https://www.dropbox.com/s/himvpoeipy6d…ndRig.txt?raw=1</p><p> The kpir files has a lot of F0 F7 sequences- besides the header part:) Open one and see for yourself:)</p>
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<p>WAY cool!!!!!!</p>
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Anyone else having issues installing Ctrlr? I keep getting "Error opening file for writing:"
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Install as administrator
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A new version of the Stomps parameters map is available. Now the sheet is arranged in a more readeable form.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ksa6er0gey6pu0w/StompParameters v2.0.xlsx?dl=0
I hope this info can be useful.
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A new version of the Stomps parameters map is available. Now the sheet is arranged in a more readeable form.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ksa6er0gey6pu0w/StompParameters v2.0.xlsx?dl=0
I hope this info can be useful.
Thank you About your wah panel - can you post it?You have better artistic taste then me in graphics:)
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Thank you About your wah panel - can you post it?You have better artistic taste then me in graphics:)
I left it on my laptop at work office...
I give you this other new concept. Graphics a part, I think arranging parameters in this way is much easy. -
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I left it on my laptop at work office...
I give you this other new concept. Graphics a part, I think arranging parameters in this way is much easy.
Nice concept and easy to create - maybe its a good way to go:) - we can also use "animate" method to move groups like your wah from outside screen to the main screen:) Just an idea. -
Another idea...
With this approach parameters can be arranged with different layout in base of the effect type.
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This is really great work!
TBH, I - in my current use - do not need this, as my Kemper sits directly next to my Computer, but I am sure, if this progresses, I will become a heavy user of thatAnother question: Can you read out the complete kipr file and save it on the computer? Would it be hard work to put such a reading, saving and loading function into a VST, so that one could save the current rig used fpr a track directly ind the DAW right on this track? So if you later want to add or change this track, you could just click on the VST to load the kipr that yu used before...
I once put a feature request for this - however, this was flushed away buy a flood of other good ideas - and of course spring reverb
http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/index.ph…-DAW-Interface/?CU and THANKS AGAIN!!!!
This is simple panel to upload a KIPR rig file to KPA via MIDI :)[Blocked Image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dhm0fw0abz0…oader.png?raw=1]
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/b206dzdovtlr…oKpa.panel?dl=0
Another idea...
With this approach parameters can be arranged with different layout in base of the effect type.
Nice One:) !!!!! If you don't mind can we use that panel?
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Other examples of panels. If you want you can use my panels. For Overdrive/distorsion I think that is better to duplicate 2 tabs in order to assign 2 overdrives/distortion to 2 stomps.
Note: Peak and Peak Range are not available on Wha Ring Modulator and Wha Shifter so must be hidden/disabled on orang tab.
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I believe that an official editor will see the light sooner or later. Consequently, Kemper will IMO be having a look at what's already "on the market" while developing their own concept of an editor, but they won't let anything interfere with Eng. Kemper's vision, which will most probably imply different approaches\functions\implementations than this "open source".
To summarize, the future KAOS versions will IMO be developed with this scenario in mind rather than in terms of avoiding potential collisions with the KPAECP.
Im waiting for such editor.
Another question is why Rig Manager is communicating with KPA with MIDI messages and why the KPA is have no driver to be a standard midi device?
It is possible now - and was possible earlier - WTF ? With c++ you can now achieve solid communication with kpa only with sysex messages. I simply do not understand that KPA exist in this market over 3 years and have no editor. Just give Us full docs and support and we create ONE ourself.
They will not change the method of communication because whole kaos (KPA OS) need to be changed in my opinion. why not to give the whole doc to the users ? Because of future NAMM and commercials of the new performance editor? I dont know. You can Ban me - but i keep discovering the possibilities of my unit:) -
Fractal Axe have a beautiful Editor
My brother bought one and started a "war" with me. Obviously KPA is better for me but it do not have a Editor to manage Amps, Effects and Cabs ecc. This can be done only on the device. Indeed KPA have a very good interface but during studio recordings can be very annoying swap from PC to rack to change something and I hurt my back to stoop every time...
Indeed I never change my KPA for for this reason.
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Fractal Axe have a beautiful Editor
My brother bought one and started a "war" with me. Obviously KPA is better for me but it do not have a Editor to manage Amps, Effects and Cabs ecc. This can be done only on the device. Indeed KPA have a very good interface but during recording can be very annoying swap from PC to rack to change something and I hurt my back to stoop every time...
Indeed I never change my KPA for for this reason.
I also working on this project because i Love my KPA Still i don't understand why the KPA Team don want to give us a full document about MIDI functions and why usb KPA device is not MIDI device . We dont hurt ourself with it.Thanks for yours projects of FX's - great work - i think we can use it with animate method when you click edit Stomp button. What do you think? It will be callled to the center of the screen.
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