Still would love to get rid of my last pedal! Everybody else has a chorus, be different and add the dimension effect!
Dimension C or D chorus effect
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Crap!
Sorry, forgot all about this.
I'll get to it when I'm next at the studio.
We're still waiting.
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Yeah sorry,
I've just spent three days in the studio but didn't have any time to look at the kemper.
I'm sure there's someone else here with a CE-2 that can get an approximation for you quicker than it's going to come from me.
I'm doing an album for a client that is going to keep me busy for at least another month or two. -
A CE-2 is a chorus is not the dimension effect. The CE-2 does have very subtle modulation, but it just is not the 3D like character of the SDD 320 Dimension D or the little pedal Dimension C. They are way more 'airy' and endless sounding unlike any standard chorus circuit. Great for keyboards and clean guitar, it was used extensively in the 80's studios. Not good at all for distorted guitar.
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I have a Dimension D.
You're right, I haven't found a way to recreate that in the kemper.I use it on a great deal of sources.
Gits
Keys
Vox
EtcGreat for widening a sourse and adding some carracter.
The "eventide micro pitch" is another great effect that you can't recreate in the Kemper that is essential to recreate certain guitar sounds, Van Halen from the 1984 record onwards.
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I really like the kemper chorus but nailing the sound of the Dimension D is not possible on most gear.
I mostly prefer to add modulation in DAW to have more control over the mix.
For cleaner stereo spreading (mono compatible) without any chorus I like the built in Kemper stereo widener,
and in vst I like the Brainworx stereo maker
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/bx_stereomaker.html
and the Credland Audio - Stereo Savage
https://www.credland.net/stereosavage/
Some other "doubling" effects I really like the Softube fix doubler (and the classic micro pitch)
https://www.softube.com/index.php?id=fixfdMy favorite Dimension D plugin is the Valhalla Ubermod. (I've tried many)
I read a thread on Gearslutz about dimension D and one guy posted he sold his original hardware Dimension D unit after comparing it with the Vallhalla Ubermod vst. It has a preset that nails it, or just needed a minor tweak. The plugin is very versatile and can do lots of different effects. I highly recommended it.
https://valhalladsp.com/shop/delay/valhalla-uber-mod/Some free vst plugins (good chorus, ok dim d)
Free, Roland Juno 60 chorus vst, - TAL-Chorus-LX v1.2.1 [FREE] (great on keys and synths)
https://tal-software.com/products/tal-chorus-lxFree, Acon Digital - Multiply (versatile and ok dim d)
https://acondigital.com/products/multiply/Interesting test
Dim D vs Dim C vs Juno Chorus
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electron…c-shootout.htmlSome info on the Dimension D.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost…26&postcount=18
"Microshift has two parallel pitch shifters. The left channel is shifted up by a certain amount, and the right channel is shifted down by the same amount. This causes a "static" chorus, and creates a wide stereo image.The Dimension D doesn't use pitch shifting. Instead, it has two bucket brigade delays, modulated by a triangle LFO. The triangle LFO modulation causes an up/down pitch trill. The LFO is inverted before modulating one of the delay lines, so the pitch shift trill in one channel is opposite of the other channel. In other words, one delay has an up-down-up-down pattern, while the other delay has a down-up-down-up pattern. If you mix these two together, the result is a "detuned" chorus: up+down, down+up, up+down, down+up...
The Dimension D has stereo outputs, arranged in a way kinda similar to this:
outLeft = delayLeft - delayRight
outRight = delayRight - delayLeftThere is also a cool EQ trick, where the "antiphase" component (i.e. the part subtracted from each channel) is highpass filtered, and the dry signal has its low frequencies boosted in a way that is complementary to the highpass filtering. This keeps the bass frequencies from cancelling out.
I'm sure that there are other quirks going on, but this is the basic topology of the Dimension D." -
My fave Dimension plugin is the Universal Audio Studio D Chorus. It is really close, so we know know it is possible.
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Some info on the Dimension D.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost…26&postcount=18
"Microshift has two parallel pitch shifters. The left channel is shifted up by a certain amount, and the right channel is shifted down by the same amount. This causes a "static" chorus, and creates a wide stereo image.The Dimension D doesn't use pitch shifting. Instead, it has two bucket brigade delays, modulated by a triangle LFO. The triangle LFO modulation causes an up/down pitch trill. The LFO is inverted before modulating one of the delay lines, so the pitch shift trill in one channel is opposite of the other channel. In other words, one delay has an up-down-up-down pattern, while the other delay has a down-up-down-up pattern. If you mix these two together, the result is a "detuned" chorus: up+down, down+up, up+down, down+up...
The Dimension D has stereo outputs, arranged in a way kinda similar to this:
outLeft = delayLeft - delayRight
outRight = delayRight - delayLeftThere is also a cool EQ trick, where the "antiphase" component (i.e. the part subtracted from each channel) is highpass filtered, and the dry signal has its low frequencies boosted in a way that is complementary to the highpass filtering. This keeps the bass frequencies from cancelling out.
I'm sure that there are other quirks going on, but this is the basic topology of the Dimension D."Sounds like this pedal could manage to cop the Dimension D effect.
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My favorite Dimension D plugin is the Valhalla Ubermod. (I've tried many)
I read a thread on Gearslutz about dimension D and one guy posted he sold his original hardware Dimension D unit after comparing it with the Vallhalla Ubermod vst. It has a preset that nails it, or just needed a minor tweak. The plugin is very versatile and can do lots of different effects. I highly recommended it.
https://valhalladsp.com/shop/delay/valhalla-uber-mod/------------------------
What preset is this in the UberMod? I feel bad, I mostly use the UberMod for it's awesome BasicTapeEcho which has a little bit of chorus in it. I need to check these presets out more, so lmk if you can which one nails the Dimension D.
thx
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Hi Guavadude, I think the guy who sold his hardware dimension D after A-B comparing meant a factory preset in the Ubermod, but there are other presets to download also.
It's very tweakable so it's easy to get lost in all the control settings.factory presets, Under Chorus: DimChorus2 and DimChorus8
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-…-d-presets.html
more Ubermod presets:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-…-windows-6.html
http://audiogeekzine.com/2012/03/valhalla-ubermod-presets/
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=146&t=339479 -
Hi Guavadude, I think the guy who sold his hardware dimension D after A-B comparing meant a factory preset in the Ubermod, but there are other presets to download also.
It's very tweakable so it's easy to get lost in all the control settings.factory presets, Under Chorus: DimChorus2 and DimChorus8
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-…-d-presets.html
more Ubermod presets:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-…-windows-6.html
http://audiogeekzine.com/2012/03/valhalla-ubermod-presets/
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=146&t=339479Great resources, thx! That KVR link and the Dimension D2 patch is killer!!
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http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopi…339479&start=45
about halfway down on this UberMod KVR thread, there's a zip file of all the user presets collected.
GREAT stuff!When recording, I'm finding that it's often better to create these effects in the DAW and keep the Kemper dry. That way you can punch in and not be chasing your proverbial reverb tail.
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Thanks.
Another good one, from this link, post 551
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-…windows-19.html
name "R Dimension D1"
copy and paste the fx text settings in to the plugin via the "paste from clipboard" in the preset menu.
In a post further down he says:
"I am glad that you like it. It is not 100% the same, but almost 98% actually, well on my monitors. heh"
Post 589 has settings for Dim D1. -
Actually I think it's 557.
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+ 1 for the Dimension C or D chorus effect inside the Kemper.
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Yeah sorry,
I've just spent three days in the studio but didn't have any time to look at the kemper.
I'm sure there's someone else here with a CE-2 that can get an approximation for you quicker than it's going to come from me.
I'm doing an album for a client that is going to keep me busy for at least another month or two.3 full days in the studio and no time for a quick glance for that ce-2 setting... Yeah... Right... Sorry my friend, guess you weren't totally honest with us... No harm done but just say so...
Kind Regards.
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You clearly have no experience as a producer or an engineer!
I don't think it's a good idea for you to accuse me of being dishonest, just in case we meet one day.
If it means so much to you get a CE-2 and spend an hour or so reproducing the setting you like on the Kemper.
*removed by mod*
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I got pretty close to the CE-2 sound (I used to own one) by using the vintage chorus and approximating the rate at 10 o'clock and the depth at 2 o'clock setting I used to use. I'd still like to hear your take on it sometime telelogic, but no hurry, no worries.
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The "eventide micro pitch" is another great effect that you can't recreate in the Kemper that is essential to recreate certain guitar sounds, Van Halen from the 1984 record onwards.
Have you tried the, uh, Micro Pitch effect?
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