Hey all, I know some of you have experience with this guy. Should I be able to have 2 mic's going into the front of the Saffire but then have 1 output going to the Kemper for profiling? I am trying to avoid using an additional mixer for making some profiles this weekend.
Thanks in advance.
That routing is definitely maybe possible 
I'm pretty sure, at least. But since it goes through AD//DA this way, there will be some latency. I'm not sure if it's enough to matter.
I say: Try it out!
Focusrite mic pres have a pretty good reputation.
You can mix the mic signals with the Mix Control software that came with the interface.
Latency will not be an issue since the Profiler automatically compensates for any latency that might occur automatically during profiling.
hth
Just to add, differences between cheap, Chinese mic pres and luxury boutique builds when operating within nominal levels (ie not being pushed to saturation) are negligible. As long as the signal is high enough above the noise floor and has a healthy headroom, you aren't going to notice differences big enough to justify the extra outlay.
Just to add, differences between cheap, Chinese mic pres and luxury boutique builds when operating within nominal levels (ie not being pushed to saturation) are negligible. As long as the signal is high enough above the noise floor and has a healthy headroom, you aren't going to notice differences big enough to justify the extra outlay.
I like the cut of your jib, sir!
Only mono back to the Kemper.
You set up a mix in the mix control software, monitoring the two mics in a blend you like. Then you send that (mono) mix to one of the outputs on the back, using the routing section of the mix control.
Now, here I'm not sure if the "return input" of the Kemper supports a TS cable, or you need XLR for profiling. If the latter, you need a TS->XLR cable. But try with just a TS-TS cable first.
Stupid question.
Not meaning to hijack JerEvil's thread (hopefully he has received the answers he was seeking)...
When would a mic preamp be used for making a regular studio profile of an amplifier? In this case, I am talking only about a single microphone (no blending), nor does the microphone require phantom power.
My only experience is with an SM57, which goes directly to the KPA, with nothing in between -- no mic preamp, no EQ.
Is that the "secret sauce" used by some commercial profilers? Do they boost or EQ the signal after the microphone, prior to the input to the KPA, during the profiling process?
TRS - XLR
The outputs on the Focusrite are balanced
Stupid question.
When would a mic preamp be used for making a regular studio profile of an amplifier (assuming just a single mic)?
My only experience is with an SM57, which goes directly to the KPA, with nothing in between -- no mic preamp, no EQ.
Is that the "secret sauce" used by some commercial profilers? Do they boost or EQ the signal after the microphone, prior to the input to the KPA, during the profiling process?
Some do, of course. Andy (TAF) for example uses compressors, EQs, multiple microphones and Neve preamps in the signal chain when he profiles. He basically sets up like he would when recording guitar sounds for an album.
I've heard of people profiling through tape machine inputs to get extra colour and grit. Whatever works.
Some do, of course. Andy (TAF) for example uses compressors, EQs, multiple microphones and Neve preamps in the signal chain when he profiles. He basically sets up like he would when recording guitar sounds for an album.
I've heard of people profiling through tape machine inputs to get extra colour and grit. Whatever works.
Thanks, Sambrox.
Also, thanks for posting that link to the SOS article on the mic preamps comparison, using a Yamaha Disklavier piano as the reference sound. Very interesting stuff.
Cheers,
John
TRS - XLR
The outputs on the Focusrite are balanced
I'm an idiot....
TRS - XLR
The outputs on the Focusrite are balanced
TRS-TRS will work too, the Return Input is balanced.
Very nice! Good to know, @HELL-G
I'm an idiot....
Nah, man! Not at all! I own a Saffire Pro 24 though. That's the only reason I knew!
Some do, of course. Andy (TAF) for example uses compressors, EQs, multiple microphones and Neve preamps in the signal chain when he profiles. He basically sets up like he would when recording guitar sounds for an album.
I've heard of people profiling through tape machine inputs to get extra colour and grit. Whatever works.
What Sam said
Bear in mind that in general it's the law of diminishing returns; cab, speakers, mic placement, choice of mic (type and pattern) all have greater influence over sound than choice of preamp.
It can be relevant to use a preamp in the case where the mic needs a lot of gain (e.g. the Shure Sm7, not to mention most ribbon mics) - but maybe the kemper has enough gain for even that - I don't know.
Another, and maybe more common reason, is when using a mic that needs phantom power (like most condensers) - the Kemper can't supply that.
Nah, man! Not at all! I own a Saffire Pro 24 though. That's the only reason I knew!
...So now is not the time to mention that that's what I've been using these past 4+ years...? 
(although I did know it - just had a case of intracranial flatulence)
