Loop Distortion

MrGiggles · September 24, 2015 at 5:32 AM

Hello Everyone

I think I made a mistake posting this, so I wasn't sure if it actually did get posted, so here goes again, just in case !

Sorry if you are forced to read it a 2nd time !

I have a question about the Loop Distortion. I have a few Gain & Fuzz Pedals I like. I have
tried them in front of the Kemper, depending on the Rig chosen, have gotten OK to good results.

I'd like to try them in the Loop Distortion, to see if they sound better or different, but not sure how to hook it up.

I have my Delay / Reverb stuff in the Standard Effects Loop and I add that by going to X Effects slot and
choosing the Loop Mono when I want to add it to a sound. I had read that on this site and it seems to work
very well.

So, for the Gain Pedals, do I just run them in the same standard Effects Loop right along with the Delay / Reverbs
but instead on Loop Mono, I use Loop Distortion to add them to the sound ?

If so, can I still chose Loop Mono for Delay / Reverb within that same Rig ?

I keep reading you choose Stomp A - D.......maybe even only D for the External Gain Pedals, so is that where I
would access my above Loop Distortion idea ? Thus enabling me to still use the Delay / Reverb under the Effects X ?

I feel confused, but not sure....something just doesn't seem right !

As usual, any and all help along with suggestions are welcome are always greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Mr Giggles

PS: I did try a few things, including a few of the above thoughts with horrible results ! So, I guess the same confusion and questions remain !

Kempermaniac · September 24, 2015 at 7:55 AM

Hm...I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve, but the KPA has only one physically send and return. Therefore you can only choose one of the loop "stomp boxes", either Mono Loop or Distortion Loop. With these "limitations" you can only hook up your external gear in chain and this way your external distortion will always be post stack as I can't imagine you want your external delay and reverb pre stack.

Ingolf · September 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM

Quote from Kempermaniac

Hm...I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve, but the KPA has only one physically send and return. Therefore you can only choose one of the loop "stomp boxes", either Mono Loop or Distortion Loop. With these "limitations" you can only hook up your extermal gear in chain and this way your external distortion will always be post stack as I can't imagine you want your external delay and reverb pre stack.

This.

MrGiggles · September 24, 2015 at 3:28 PM

Hi Kempermaniac and Ingolf

Thanks again for the replies.

I've read quite a bit about the " Loop Distortion" and wanted try it for myself, just to see if sounded any
different than running the Gain Pedals in the front......that's really it.

I did more experimenting and found what Kempermaniac mentioned, only one loop at a time. No matter
how I hooked things up, they sounded pretty poor.

So, I think I'll just stick with Delay / Reverb / Mod through the Loop Mono or Stereo if I use my Pedalboard and just
throw the Gain Pedals in front.

I'm just starting to work a bit more with the on-board effects and I'm liking them pretty well. Still like my own seperate
Reverb units however ! I have a Mobius that I like, but as I start to like more Kemper effects, I may sell the Mobius.

Thanks again

Mr Giggles

meambobbo · September 24, 2015 at 8:12 PM

Running your pedals in front the kpa should sound virtually identical to running them in a mono loop in slot A. The distortion loop would be only slightly different as it has a noise gate. The only real benefit to using a kpa loop would be that you could bypass all the pedals simultaneously by diasabling the loop

deadpan · September 24, 2015 at 8:45 PM

I have tried the distortion loop with my boost and maybe I was doing something wrong but there was a lack of high end and it just seemed flatter compared to running the pedals in front.

meambobbo · September 24, 2015 at 9:22 PM

Try it as mono loop. That dist loop noise gate can do that. I cant imagine the kpa can guarantee the same signal level going to the pedal as straight from the guitar though.

MrGiggles · September 25, 2015 at 2:22 AM

Hello

Thanks to meambobbo & deadpan for the extra info on the Loop Distortion !

So far, nothing I've tried, including all the suggestions from the replies I've received has sounded better than just
putting the Gain type pedal right into the front of the Kemper !

So for now, that is the way to go for me, anyway !

Thanks again everyone !

Mr Giggles

dougc84 · September 25, 2015 at 6:32 AM

Quote from MrGiggles

Hello

Thanks to meambobbo & deadpan for the extra info on the Loop Distortion !

So far, nothing I've tried, including all the suggestions from the replies I've received has sounded better than just
putting the Gain type pedal right into the front of the Kemper !

So for now, that is the way to go for me, anyway !

Thanks again everyone !

Mr Giggles

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I haven't tried the distortion loop personally, but I have a Timeline and a BigSky in a Stereo Loop in the X slot, and I'm not about to take that out. However, I run a volume, a wah, and three overdrive pedals in front of the Kemper. Sounds great. Every bit as good as plugging into the real thing.