Big latency problem with my DAW when recording kemper

There are no latency setting in the kemper other than the constant latency button but this is only for reamping so all tracks stay the same. Again this wouldn't make a difference if you have it on or off when playing. Ive never used Cubase (I'm a Pro Tools Guy) but I would say its the settings on your interface or in Cubase and to look here first. I know there are some users on here who use Cubase so hopefully they will chime in and help out. Sorry I could be any more help

I don't use cubase either but with samplitude I've noticed that when certain plugins are active on the master they cause latency while recording...

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I don't use cubase either but with samplitude I've noticed that when certain plugins are active on the master they cause latency while recording...

Had this same problem in logic pro x

Plugins will nearly always cause latency especially limiters as they are mostly looking a head. I use Pro Tools HD so tracking with plugins is 99% ok as long as they are TDM ones if I track with native plugins ones that work from the computers chips etc there is always an issue. There are some plugins out there which have zero latency like skate VMR but you always have the buffer latency on top of that. Running at a buffer of 64 or even 32 if your computer will go down to that should be ok for most people.

It could also be due to disk strain. I have an external USB disk that runs at 5400rpm, and with Logic projects with a ton of tracks, there's always a slight delay when recording, even with the low-latency button selected in the transport. Luckily, it's rare that I have to use that disk (it's convenient for mixing on the go as it's bus-powered, but rubbish for actual tracking).

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Hi,

I have a big latency problem with my Kemper. I don't have latency as I'm playing through my headphones, but when I record on cubase, it is tracking with a couple millisecond of latency. Exemple, when I wanna track rythm guitar, I first record the right side, and then when I record the left side I can hear that the timing is off with the right side I just recorded, and then on cubase the left and right sides are synchronized but it's off to the drums, and I have to move the tracks a tiny bit back to be on time with the drums. My sound card is RME UC fireface I tried to set the latency differently it doesn't change the issue, I tried to replace it with a m audio fast track pro same issue, I tried to plug the kemper to the interface with SPDIF and regular cable, same issue, I tried to play through a pod x3 instead of the kemper through the RME, and no latency, so I do beleive the problem occur between the kemper output and my DAW, maybe i didn't set the output settings correctly ? If anyone could help me I would deeply appreciate.

thanks

With your RME card you should not have any latency problem as you can use its software mixer to monitor your signal in more or less realtime. If it really works with your POD something must be wrong with your KPA but I suggest you check everything once again. In your KPA, afaik the only latency setting you can make is fixed latency (used for reamping). If that is the culprit make shure it's deactivated.
It appears to me that you are still quite new to recording. In my experience most problems like yours are caused by user error. Check again if you really have no latency when recording with the POD and then change nothing but switch to the KPA to see if that really introduces the latency.
By the way, how much latency are we talking about?
Is latency correction activated in Cubase? (can it still be deactivated? It's so long ago that they introduced it)
Hope that helps

Have exactly same problem with my Fast Track Pro and SPDIF cable, pretty sure it is not Cubase problem as I tried to play  Kemper through SPDIF-Fast Track Pro-FRFR and there was more than 10ms delay. Is anyone playing FRFR through spdif at all?

perhaps I need to upgrade my audio interface

OP are you using the analog outputs/ inputs? That's gotta be a monitoring issue...how are you monitoring the tracks? With direct or through the daw? And what's going on when you just play the KPA with your speaker etc?

I read the problem as though the latency isn't while monitoring, but on playback in the DAW; the recorded tracks seem to be delayed by x amount. Ignore me, if I misunderstood.

Latency while monitoring can be for a number of reasons, some of which have already been stated : Constant Latency option selected in KPA, Low Latency Monitoring not selected in DAW, sample rate mismatch, digital slave/master mismatch, plugins on recording track while recording etc. etc.

The signal coming from the headphones out of the Profiler has the same latency as the other outputs.If you experience latency issues when playing through your audio interface you are either not using the direct monitoring option that every audio interface offers and/or you are using plug ins in your DAW that add extra latency and you did not activate the latency compensation feature for that track or bus in your DAW. Please consult your Cubase and RME manual regarding these matters.

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The signal coming from the headphones out of the Profiler has the same latency as the other outputs.If you experience latency issues when playing through your audio interface you are either not using the direct monitoring option that every audio interface offers and/or you are using plug ins in your DAW that add extra latency and you did not activate the latency compensation feature for that track or bus in your DAW. Please consult your Cubase and RME manual regarding these matters.

But that would not explain why he has no latency issue with his POD.

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is it exactly my problem. I tried to remove all the plugins I have on my projects (mostly slate digitals and waves), and the problem is still the same, I'm gonna look into some solution you guys gave me.

Just to be sure - have you tried deactivatng them WHILE recording? because that's what fixed it for me

For your interface / recording software, set your buffer as low as possible without getting pops / clicks / glitches. Find out how to use the plugin compensation and zero latency monitoring. Ensure your recording interface mixer software is offering you the 'output of DAW' at your monitor AND headphone outputs - headphones can be set different to main outs on some recording interfaces. I'm not familiar with Cubase or your interface so I'm not clear how to do that on yours but any of these things can cause your issue.

Turn off all plugins whilst recording. I've got some of the slates and they are great but some do give a big delay (the virtual tape for a start). Separate recording from mixing; when you're laying down tracks, no need for plugins.

Connect your headphones to your recording interface. Now you are hearing what is recorded and your timing should be right.

if the above doesn't work then I'll be interested what does when you finally discover it

I seem to remember you saying you had an RME interface. You need to read up on how to use their Total Mix software to enable zero latency monitoring (its extremely powerful and flexible, but can sometimes be a little daunting), and not monitor through Cubase (which will always incur latency). You should save a preset of how your Total Mix is set up currently (fine for mixing), then create a monitor mix for tracking and save that as a preset, too. Then you can switch back and forth with a mouse click and not have to worry about the options in Cubase.

If you open your RME Total Mix software, probably all you have to do is turning up the fader that corresponds with the input you have connected your guitar (Kemper / POD) to and probably you'll be able to monitor yourself. As sambrox wrote you should not monitor through Cubase. Obviously, latency compensation is already activated in your system. With that in mind you can set the buffer size to whatever value you want, because you will still monitor through your soundcard with more or less zero latency. Plugins activated in Cubase also don't matter latencywise because any latency they introduce will be corrected by Cubase's latency compensation.

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Ok guys problem solved, apparently you were right the problem was that I was monitoring my guitar in cubase and that caused latency, I turned off the monitoring through cubase and activated it in the Totalmix pannel of my interface RME, and now the problem is completly solved ... that was such and easy trick ... haha

I just wanna say lastly that desactivating the plugins as adviced by someone does work but I really think it's a wrong solution, I don't have to desactivate any plugin by monitoring through the interface and not the DAW

thanks everyone

Hahaha... Always RTFM!

And yeah, the monitoring situation was definitely caused by monitoring inside the DAW. However, I've had the latency problem on playback while monitoring ON MY INTERFACE, which disappeared when turning off the master buss plugins. That's something I would blame the DAW programmers for.