I'm really hoping that the software update really makes a difference with using a regular cab. I won't hesitate for a minute to go back to one if that is the case. I really like FRFR but if I can get an even more authentic profile through a regular cab and have some better definition on the high gain stuff, that would be something to behold!
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New profiling (Better cab separation)
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pacocito -
November 27, 2014 at 6:29 PM -
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Thank you!
i usually dont touch the EQ at the kemper. The "main eq" for me is the micing. and i often change my amp settings a bit - for that micing. Also sometimes i think - yes thats the sweetspot...but with another amp i have to change again
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I'm really hoping that the software update really makes a difference with using a regular cab. I won't hesitate for a minute to go back to one if that is the case. I really like FRFR but if I can get an even more authentic profile through a regular cab and have some better definition on the high gain stuff, that would be something to behold!
It does! I also can record with a mic the Kemper with the same chain like used proifling and it sounds 99% the same. To me it sounds even 1% better than the real amp because some fizz is gone
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i did a similar Test - check that! https://soundcloud.com/deadlightstudi…rofile-miced-up
Real Amp
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I seriously cannot hear the difference through my monitors, but maybe that's down to the sound cloud encoding... ahahaha;-)
Cheers,
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It does! I also can record with a mic the Kemper with the same chain like used proifling and it sounds 99% the same. To me it sounds even 1% better than the real amp because some fizz is gone
Thanks for sharing! This is really great news!
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i hear a tiny one..but not more like Real amp / Profile difference was before...nothing to care about
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I'll have to check the example out when I'm next in my own studio. My monitors at work aren't set up to be totally flat (I work in post production and have my monitors set to exaggerate the top end, so I don't end up piling on too much, especially for commercials!).
Cheers,
Sam -
I had this error message.
"booting & burning from USB device
ERROR firmware update doesn't support this hardware"This is on Kemper Profiler Rack.
- I downloaded kpa_firmware_20141128_1904_svn10549_beta.zip.
- I updated firmware 2.8.0 10549 from 2.8.0 10548, using press "<" and ">" key boot method.
- I received "ERROR firmware update doesn't support this hardware" error message, when I updating FW.
- I can boot kemper, FW version is "EXPERIMENTAL 2.8.0 10549B" on system settings Page9.
- I can not downgrade 2.7.3 and 2.8.0 10548 from 2.8.0 10549, I received same message.- I have "External Storage" issue yet on 2.8.0 10549B.
Please advice me.
Thank you.
Same thing here! Please advice.
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I have done some merged profiles with my mesa boogie mark iii red stripe.
A few with elmwood 4x12 and some with my rectifier 2x12 both with v30, used a heil pr20 microphone.
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I used my new DI/Merged profiles today live for the first time and they worked pretty darn good. I used a Matrix GM50 plate amp in my Avatar Vintage 112 cab and it sounded just like my amp was "in the room". This is pretty exciting stuff!!!
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How do the guitar cabinets react to being turned down? Does it sound better than the original amp would at a low volume, or pretty much the same as the original amp at low volume?
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Yes, I was wondering about the tone change from turning down.
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We have made the observation that it's mostly a myth that amps change their tone by volume.
Amps Without master volume do, to get the power amp distortion.
But modern tube amps with preamp and high wattage breakup very late, e.g. at master volume higher than 3/4. This is a region where these amps are too loud for most purposes, and start to sound muddy.
We have made a little survey years ago with the result that about all guitarists avoid this region.
The breakup of the speakers come even later, so that a speaker distortion cannot be achived without an accompaining tube power amp distortion.it is a bit funny that this myth is ever present, but nobody on the www took the effort to prove this thesis by recording at different levels, or even better - takes profiles at different levels.
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my merged profiles sound the same on any volume so you can play them really quiet with great tone!
also i do my profiles at low volume, just the point the amp starts to sound. EVH mini for example master 0,3 is enough
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Most probably the cause is we ourselves hear differently at different SPLs.
Jay Mitchell wrote that cone breakup has nothing to do with a "better tone", and the non-linearities we hear at high amp settings depend almost exclusively on the amp. When cone breakup really occurs it sounds nasty.
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but im sure a non master volume vintage amp for example that has to be loud, profiled that way - you will get the same saturated tone at low volumes
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We have made the observation that it's mostly a myth that amps change their tone by volume.
Amps Without master volume do, to get the power amp distortion.
But modern tube amps with preamp and high wattage breakup very late, e.g. at master volume higher than 3/4. This is a region where these amps are too loud for most purposes, and start to sound muddy.
We have made a little survey years ago with the result that about all guitarists avoid this region.
The breakup of the speakers come even later, so that a speaker distortion cannot be achived without an accompaining tube power amp distortion.it is a bit funny that this myth is ever present, but nobody on the www took the effort to prove this thesis by recording at different levels, or even better - takes profiles at different levels.
Thanks! This is exactly why I asked the question. I wondered if any of the people using guitar cabinets were noticing a change in the sound of the cabinets when the speakers were getting less signal. I didn't think there would be much of a change, if any change at all.
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The fact is, that since our hearing is not linear, it's impossible to properly answer the question w\o any "buffering"\compensative approach (such as recording, for example).
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Agreed - human hearing is not linear.
But, people who have to turn down their tube amps when they play through guitar cabinets don't say "Fletcher Munson".
They say "This gig sucks!"
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