As you can see here:
internal tube screamer sound awful
... we came to the conclusion that our Green Scream stomp is absolutely close to the DO808.
As you can see here:
internal tube screamer sound awful
... we came to the conclusion that our Green Scream stomp is absolutely close to the DO808.
As you can see here:
internal tube screamer sound awful
... we came to the conclusion that our Green Scream stomp is absolutely close to the DO808.
Sorry CK, but the two clips Don posted in that thread sound worlds apart. The Green Scream stomp is absolutely NOT anywhere near close to the OD808; it's more harsh, dry, and removes far more low end from the guitar than the OD808 which sounds big, smooth, and 'open' in comparison (and this is clearly audible in Don's clips).
unfortunately, jeff is right.
Sorry CK, but the two clips Don posted in that thread sound worlds apart. The Green Scream stomp is absolutely NOT anywhere near close to the OD808; it's more harsh, dry, and removes far more low end from the guitar than the OD808 which sounds big, smooth, and 'open' in comparison (and this is clearly audible in Don's clips).
I have to agree on this CK, i hear the same thing as JeffTD and the OD808 is much more warmer and ''wider''!
I wish you could profile your own pedal and put it in the stomp section so you can use it with any of the profiles you like!
I also agree with Jeff and ETS. Those differences are not subtle.
i wrote a post commenting about the exact same differences between my OD808 and the green screamer. i'm happy that apparently i'm not the only one who hears this...
while the difference is indeed VERY small, it is disturbing enough when used in combination with a high gain amp to clear up the low-end response to achieve more punch. i now either use my real OD808 or a 'graphic EQ' stomp.
on the other hand, the green scream used as a overdrive with a clean amp works good enough for me. therefore, i can understand why many claim the difference to be insignificant/unsubstantial. obviously it's mainly the hi-gain lovers and metalheads that are having a hard time with it (and complaining about it)....
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CK please, no more green overdrive pedal models. It's a one trick pony. Instead put a Klon model as this is an iconic unit worthy to reside in the Kemper.
Sorry CK, but the two clips Don posted in that thread sound worlds apart. The Green Scream stomp is absolutely NOT anywhere near close to the OD808; it's more harsh, dry, and removes far more low end from the guitar than the OD808 which sounds big, smooth, and 'open' in comparison (and this is clearly audible in Don's clips).
I think your right jeff..
i hear that to...
Sorry CK, but the two clips Don posted in that thread sound worlds apart. The Green Scream stomp is absolutely NOT anywhere near close to the OD808; it's more harsh, dry, and removes far more low end from the guitar than the OD808 which sounds big, smooth, and 'open' in comparison (and this is clearly audible in Don's clips).
So the analog OD808 removes LESS low end in your point of view.
Do you run your OD808 with Tone set to minimum?
I have posted a reply to the other thread.
Still we are interested in settings that you cannot replicate. Nobody has answered to this question yet.
CK please, no more green overdrive pedal models. It's a one trick pony. Instead put a Klon model as this is an iconic unit worthy to reside in the Kemper.
I'm with this guy. Forget that p.o.c. and find a good old Klon to put in the stomp section.
You've got some world class amps, why not have the best stomps too ?
p.s. don't forget to include a spring reverb, thanks.
I'm with this guy. Forget that p.o.c. and find a good old Klon to put in the stomp section.
You've got some world class amps, why not have the best stomps too ?
p.s. don't forget to include a spring reverb, thanks.
Matter of opinion. A Klon would be awesome bu† a 808 has it's purpose too. A staple for metal and SRV used a 808 too I believe.
So the analog OD808 removes LESS low end in your point of view.
Do you run your OD808 with Tone set to minimum?I have posted a reply to the other thread.
Still we are interested in settings that you cannot replicate. Nobody has answered to this question yet.
Yes, it removes less low end. No, I do not run it with the tone set to minimum; I have the tone knob set at 10:30 almost exclusively.
I can't give you settings because I don't use any of the stock profiles, sorry.
Nothing to do with the 808 or Klon, etc, etc.
But, try the Plus DS, Drive 3.3, Volume +5.
Killer stomp, sounds great with Jon Gill's JCA20H Profile.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55111784/JCA…2020-34-17.kipr
I own a regular tube screamer and use it a lot with settings:
Tone: 6
Volume: 5
Drive: 0
The Green Screamer in the KPA indeed seems to remove more low end than my TS9, and seems to have more distortion at position 0 as well. Also as per CK's explanations the equivalent tone setting in the Green Screamer should be around -2.0, which to my ears remove way too much top end, I ended up using -1.0 which should be equivalent to 8 in my TS9, so I think the controls are a bit off indeed. I would love to see variations on the Tube Screamer, even if it would be a single stomp with a "mode" selector (TS9, TS808, Keeley, Boss OD1, etc). It would also be nice if the controls responded more like the originals in these new models.
+1 and add a Mix Knob
Maxon AND a Fulltone would be amazing!
The new Green Scream in FW 1.6 is perfect now! Great job from the Kemper team! Much smoother, better saturation and more play on the tone parameter and the low end is much better! Loving it!
I report this wiKPA entry as stated from Eng. Kemper. When you can, please let me know whether it has to be modified with FW 1.6
Thank you!
QuoteDisplay More[[CK]] The Green Scream is modeled after a TS808 Reissue. It sounds identical to the original. Sound and gain are exactly the same. Take care that only the first half of the tone control reflects its full tone range. The zero setting of the Green Scream does not boost, unless the Clean sens setting is too low.
But in any case you will hear a distortion, even at zero gain. That is like on the original.
I could recreate every setting of the Maxon OD 808 with our internal Green Scream. The OD 808 is obviously a straight follower and approach to the original TS-808, the TS-808 reissue is obviously on the same track.
There is hard to hear a difference, if you set it right. There is only one slight difference: When both tones are set to minimum, the Green Scream still tends to be a bit brighter. This could even be component tolerances. I can change that, as it will widen the tone range of the Green Scream - not a bad thing.
Please bear in mind the following:
1. The original Tone knob is represented by the left half of the Green Scream's Tone knob only (-5.0 to 0.0). This should be obvious when you hear it. But we might change that in the future. The Tone control does not have further impact on values 0.0 to 5.0. It does not go beyond the tone of the original, sonically speaking.
There is no difference in setting it to 2.0, 0.0 or 5.0, all these values will sound like the original tone control set to max.
2. The behavior of our Volume knob is different than on the original, it depends even if the amp section is clean or distorting.
3. The range of the drive knob is spot on!
Change the KPA and write "it sound great".
The best stomp emulation i have ever dealt with.