Kemper connected to sound card sounds bad

Tommacool · November 20, 2020 at 2:43 AM

Quote from Ni6htWalker

see the problem was your older audio card

Perhaps. But I didn not try it's SPDIF inputs.
Anyway, the UR22 works fine now. so I'll stick with this for now

Tommacool · November 20, 2020 at 5:12 AM

But damn it, I noticed this UR22 does have some latency. Making fast playing annoying / difficult.
I notice it when I try to record in my DAW.
Anyone know of a good PCI sound card that has "zero" / 5 ms latency?

Hudiluma · November 28, 2020 at 2:17 PM

Really PCI? I can sell you my M-Audio card Delta 44 for €30,00 plus shipping!

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lightbox · November 28, 2020 at 2:40 PM

Use "Direct Monitoring" instead of monitoring through your DAW.

Tommacool · December 11, 2020 at 7:24 PM

Quote from lightbox

Use "Direct Monitoring" instead of monitoring through your DAW.

Can you elaborate? Where / which settings etc.?

karlodotur · February 2, 2023 at 10:31 AM

Quote from Tommacool

But damn it, I noticed this UR22 does have some latency. Making fast playing annoying / difficult.
I notice it when I try to record in my DAW.
Anyone know of a good PCI sound card that has "zero" / 5 ms latency?

Hi!
I have same issue. Sounds totally different through my Audient id22, from when I connect it directly through PA or active cab.

Wheresthedug · February 2, 2023 at 11:48 AM

Quote from karlodotur

Hi!
I have same issue. Sounds totally different through my Audient id22, from when I connect it directly through PA or active cab.

What inputs are you using on the id22? 99 times out of 100 the problem is using an XLR cable into a budget interface as this automatically engages the mic preamps which can’t properly handle the line level signal from the Kemper. Try using a regular TS instrument cable or TRS balanced cable.

The other common issue is phase cancellation between direct monitoring output and software monitoring via the DAW. Always make sure you are on;y hearing one of the signals not both together.

karlodotur · February 4, 2023 at 1:02 AM

Quote from Wheresthedug

What inputs are you using on the id22? 99 times out of 100 the problem is using an XLR cable into a budget interface as this automatically engages the mic preamps which can’t properly handle the line level signal from the Kemper. Try using a regular TS instrument cable or TRS balanced cable.

The other common issue is phase cancellation between direct monitoring output and software monitoring via the DAW. Always make sure you are on;y hearing one of the signals not both together.

Well, since I'm session studio musician I have also external preamps like UAD LA 610, Focusrite ISA two, Audient ASP800, 1176 style compressors etc....

I've tried every possible combination (including impedance changes, direct into converters, polarity...), and figured out that some profiles sound great direct to PA or some kind of speakers, and others through converters/audio interface.