Kone & Kabinet experiences

    Quote from Mookytc

    I have two Kones in an Avatar open 2 x12. Curious how much difference an actual Kemper cab with Kone would sound? Take the extra speaker out of the equation. Does the closed back, specialty designed cab change or "sweeten" the tone?

    Would love to try one but hate to burn almost $500. USD on the hardware (and not receive much benefit - value).

    Haven't tried an open back cab.

    I did buy a Kone and got a local builder to clone my Kabinet which came out great.

    It occurs to me that if you did buy a Kabinet and didn't like it you could probably flip it for almost no loss. It really is good IMHO.

    Well, tried one yesterday at my friends house and was blown away. Sounds way cooler than my Custom FRFR which at least to me is pretty amazing.

    Interesting was that even the effects tend to be affected by the Kone-Sound. Delays and Reverbs seem to be put in the background whereas the Chorus seem to be emphasized.

    Very interesting.

    Will definitely buy one myself (also custom).

    Quote from StefanErtle

    Well, tried one yesterday at my friends house and was blown away. Sounds way cooler than my Custom FRFR which at least to me is pretty amazing.

    Interesting was that even the effects tend to be affected by the Kone-Sound. Delays and Reverbs seem to be put in the background whereas the Chorus seem to be emphasized.

    Very interesting.

    Will definitely buy one myself (also custom).

    Yes, I wish Kemper would implement a routing scheme that reproduced post effects through Kone as a separate flat, full-range signal path. This is already done for external source playback, so should be quite possible.

    After living with a Kone for the past month I'm joining the club and moving away from FRFR (for Kemper, at least). Kone provides an eye-opening experience in terms of presence and lack of grating "fizz". I'm running mine in a Seismic 1x12V cabinet (open back), largely because the Kabinet was unobtanium for months here in the USA. I note they are back in stock at Kemper store now, FWIW.

    I think I’m done with searching my ”Perfect Digital Amp Rig” with Kemper + Ritter Camplifier + Kabinet + Remote.

    Man this thing sounds good! I mean Kemper + my Atomic CLR is super nice setup... But Kabinet just sounds even better!

    External Content www.instagram.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.


    I ordered Ritter Camplifier 280 for my Toaster and Kemper Kabinet about a week ago and both just arrived. Excellent customer support from both companies.

    Gear: Kemper Profiler | Neural DSP Plugins
    Guitars: .Strandberg* 

    Quote from drop the sun

    I think I’m done with searching my ”Perfect Digital Amp Rig” with Kemper + Ritter Camplifier + Kabinet + Remote.

    Man this thing sounds good! I mean Kemper + my Atomic CLR is super nice setup... But Kabinet just sounds even better!

    Took the words right out of my mouth. My CLR isn't going anywhere, but Kone is quite impressive and has some stupidly great voicing available.

    Quote from stickman

    vtgearhead yeah the situation has been similar here in EU, fact is thee things sell faster than hot buns. Why don't you just call them, not sure about the US but here they are really friendly peeps on the support line :)

    so i got the Kabinet last week as promised and when i first tried it out i had some really nasty rattling as soon as i hit a bass string. Called them up and they told me that until now they did not have a faulty Kone but some of the kabs had issues with assembly and some bolts/screws not properly tightened. They were happy to have me send it back and get a replacement (apparently despite the sold out status they keep a certain quantity in stock for replacements) but they also said i could easily open up the cab without voiding the warranty and tighten the bolts myself .. which i did. The backpanel didn't wanna come out at first so i took out the connection plate and then used the hole as a handle to pull it out. It's really tightly crammed in there so that was a bit scary. Tightened all the bolts inside a bit more (none of them was obviously loose), put it back together and the rattle was gone. 8o

    And it sounds really amazing. I was also surpised how well it sounds at low volumes, haven't really let it rip yet since i'm not used to play at super loud volumes anymore and will wait until i'm back home to pump it up and go through the Marshall bank. The sound is quite different from what i'm used to playing the toaster through headphones or my monitors but tbh for me all 3 variants sound amazing in their own way. As for the imprints (haven't tried out full range mode yet), personally i think it's a gimmick for nerds (which isn't meant as negative as it probably sounds). Maybe it's because i don't play covers and never wanted to sound like anyone in particular but myself that i've never been one for chasing grails and tbh i rarely care what particular guitar/pups/pedals/amps/cabs i play ... either it inspries me or not ... if it sounds it sounds and i never understood the extensive and sometimes heated debates i see online about which is 'the best' or 'most authentic'. At low and medium volume i (and the other two guitarists in the family) can't hear a huge difference in tone from the different imprints but only subtle frequency shifts .. and all sound good to me. Maybe that perception will evolve over time but i doubt it cause as i said .. to me .. if it sounds it sounds and i don't care much how or why, after over a year and a halfwith the kemper is still don't have any favorites and dial up a different rig almost everytime i play ^^

    the one thing i think is a bit of a design flaw is the position of the rubber feet. It's not super stable with the toaster sitting on top and i'd be afraid to topple the whole rig or rip the toaster from the base with a slight tug on the jack. I think i'm going to redrill the feet all the way to the corners for a bit more stability and probably keep the toaster in the shelf i built for it where it can't fall down. The leather handle and corner thingies are a nice touch ... but still not diggin the green but hey tastes and colors as the french say ...

    so bottom line for me ... sounds amazing, much more 'guitar amp' than over monitors and way better than the couple of standard cabs i tried in the shop or at home ... so once again .. happy Kemper.

    That's a good point about the positioning of the feet. I'm definitely going to move mine closer to the corners as it really does feel unstable with the head on top.

    I might have a little problem, that I can’t seem to solve.


    I have Ritter Camplifier 280, Profiler Head and Kabinet. I have connected my Profiler from Monitor OUT to Ritter INPUT.


    Problem is, that when I want to try Studio Profiles with Imprints, I have to manually disable the Cab section. Shouldn’t the Cab section be Globaly OFF From the Monitor OUT?

    Gear: Kemper Profiler | Neural DSP Plugins
    Guitars: .Strandberg* 

    I've been loving the kabinet for a few months now. I never really minded going FRFR as I used fairly heavy pure cab settings, so the change hasn't been drastic, but certainly welcome and has me much closer to where I wanted to be being a purely at home user.

    I do wonder when we will start seeing some profile packs being released (maybe we have already?) where the profile was ground up designed to be used at home with the kabinet, as, as some others have mentioned, some profiles take to kabinet use much easier than others. I've been loving a lot of michael britts profiles with the kabinet though.

    - Liam

    Quote from drop the sun

    yes, I have done this but it does not bypass the cab. I have to disable the cab pressing the cab button.

    CAB button in the stack section needs to be on if you are using the imprints. Once you are in Kone mode, when listening to a studio or merged profile, the KPA ignores the cab section of that profile in the monitor output ( but applies it in the Main Outs).

    Quote from Antipodes

    CAB button in the stack section needs to be on if you are using the imprints. Once you are in Kone mode, when listening to a studio or merged profile, the KPA ignores the cab section of that profile in the monitor output ( but applies it in the Main Outs).

    yes exactly! This is how I read it should work. But the Cab isn’t bypassed until I press the Cab Section button to OFF.

    Gear: Kemper Profiler | Neural DSP Plugins
    Guitars: .Strandberg* 

    Quote from Antipodes

    Kone Mode and "Monitor Cabinet off" both have to be enabled in the Output Section to access the imprints - otherwise they are greyed out.

    yes, this is OK in my setup as well.


    I might be stupid, but am I doing something wrong...

    It seems, that the Studio Profile does pass the Cab section after all (On the Cab Menu’s Page 2, there is Imprint active). The tone does change, but the ”amp in the room” tone is way different with Studio Profiles vs Direct ones. Is this just the way it is or am I missing something? This is the reason I started to suspect something is wrong.


    With studio profiles the imprints sound very much like a Cab with a mic, just somehow different.


    When I choose a Profile that is a DI version without a Cab it sounds very raw.

    Also changing imprints in Studio Profile the change between different imprints is more noticable, than what it is with Direct Profiles.

    To make it clear: For example Tone Junkie Studio Profile vs DI profile are like a day and night different with Kone mode and imprint active.
    :/

    Gear: Kemper Profiler | Neural DSP Plugins
    Guitars: .Strandberg*