The Kemper has a digital spdif output and my soundcard (UAD apollo twin) has optical inputs.
Is there a simple cable adapter I could use or do I need some sort of box to connect them?
The Kemper has a digital spdif output and my soundcard (UAD apollo twin) has optical inputs.
Is there a simple cable adapter I could use or do I need some sort of box to connect them?
there are converters from optical to rca spdif available
look at amazon or similar for this
its the same protocol
So I’d need a box like this:
LiNKFOR Bi-Directional Toslink to Coaxial Converter 192 kHz Optical SPDIF Toslink to Coaxial Toslink and Coaxial to Optical SPDIF Toslink Coaxial Converter Switcher with Optical Coaxial Cables https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZNR4N9F/…i_nsz5Db0HKTSCM
I was hoping there might just be a cable adapter.
Yes, that's the kind of converters you need.
I had good results with this particular model:
https://www.thomann.de/gb/lindy_audio…dif_digital.htm
Be aware that you need 2 units if you plan to do digital reamping.
Regarding "just a cable adapter":
This doesn't exist because a cable in itself can't convert from an optical signal to electrical signal and vice versa.
Just FYI you will get equal sound with the awesome preamps and converters in your Apollo. Also, you will get less latency monitoring direct in Console than with SPDIF.
Display MoreYes, that's the kind of converters you need.
I had good results with this particular model:
https://www.thomann.de/gb/lindy_audio…dif_digital.htm
Be aware that you need 2 units if you plan to do digital reamping.
Regarding "just a cable adapter":
This doesn't exist because a cable in itself can't convert from an optical signal to electrical signal and vice versa.
Good post. OP keep in mind that the Twin doesn't have spdif output so you must reamp in the analog domain.
keep in mind that the Twin doesn't have spdif input
Haha, true. Weird devices they are. Digital OUTput it doesn't have. I wouldn't even be surprised if someone told me that the UAD's ADAT input can't be switched to S/PDIF mode.
Ah sorry yes. Output.
Display MoreYes, that's the kind of converters you need.
I had good results with this particular model:
https://www.thomann.de/gb/lindy_audio…dif_digital.htm
Be aware that you need 2 units if you plan to do digital reamping.
Regarding "just a cable adapter":
This doesn't exist because a cable in itself can't convert from an optical signal to electrical signal and vice versa.
thanks for the link!
Would a cheap one not do the trick?
Is there really more latency going in digitally? If it’s a lot more it wouldn’t make sense for me to go that route then.
The only reason I’m planning to use the optical ins is that I can keep my analog ins free for microphones when recording acoustic guitars and vocals.
I don't get any less latency using spdif.
Would a cheap one not do the trick?
It should work as well, just haven't tried this particular model
Is there really more latency going in digitally?
Sadly there is no easy answer to this, apart from the difference not being much.
It basically depends on many factors ... a few factors being:
1. Does your interface support "Direct Monitoring" (for analog and digital inputs) and do you use it?
2. If the answer to #1 is yes, what latency does the DA conversion in your interface for direct monitoring introduce?
3. Does the optical/coax converter introduce any amount of latency?
4. If you don't use direct monitoring but prefer to monitor through your DAW, how does the audio interface handle the conversion from S/PDIF audio stream to USB audio? Is there any latency introduced?
It's pretty much impossible to exactly tell what the result is unless we try with exactly the same setup you'll be using. It can differ with other setups/gear.
I wouldn't worry too much about this, it should be well below any perceivable difference, probably a couple of samples more or less.
In that case I’m not that bothered. As long as it’s not notable and loads.
Stupid question:
Usually on digital signals you can send more than 2 channels. I’m guessing with the Kemper being a SPDIF Output I can only send stereo, right?
Would be awesome if I could send both the dry stereo and the effects stereo seperate through the digital outs.
Yes, correct. It's just a basic S/PDIF In/Out (2 channels). For ADAT (up to 8 channels) it would have been optical I/O.
There’s an idea for the next version of the Kemper
Lots of good info here.
For those of you who haven’t used the UA interfaces: Their conversion and monitoring is crazy low latency and absolutely stellar.
For cheap interfaces, I’d say going S/PDIF is beneficial for my our sound quality. From my experience with UA, I’d say don’t bother. Analog is A-ok
But UAD Appolo preamp is so good , you will missed that if you using spdif with coaxial converter