for Gilmour plus.....
Love a Binson type delay
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I've been trying to copy this with the current delays but I can't get even close. I downloaded a Binson plugin and tried to match this by A/B ING against the Kemper. Nothing I did got close. It might just be that I am crap at editing the existing delays but if that is the case I would love to hear from anyone that has successfully matched the Echorec with the KPaa delays.
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I've been trying to copy this with the current delays but I can't get even close. I downloaded a Binson plugin and tried to match this by A/B ING against the Kemper. Nothing I did got close. It might just be that I am crap at editing the existing delays but if that is the case I would love to hear from anyone that has successfully matched the Echorec with the KPA delays.
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closest I've gotten has been with two delays back to back
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closest I've gotten has been with two delays back to back
Two dual delays would give you the equivalent of four heads on the echorec drum. Try playing around with the deeper parameters to try to match the tone. Echorec has a pretty short max delay - Gilmour uses 310 msec a lot because that was what his were capable of, some are shorter.
Check it out here.
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Two dual delays would give you the equivalent of four heads on the echorec drum. Try playing around with the deeper parameters to try to match the tone. Echorec has a pretty short max delay - Gilmour uses 310 msec a lot because that was what his were capable of, some are shorter.
Check it out here.
I’ve tried dual delays, quad delay and rhythm delay. Getting the repeat times etc is easy but the way the delays feedback is pretty unique. Nothing I have been able to do gets even close.
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A Strymon Volante is probably the best bet as far as getting full control over panning and feedback and 4 heads etc.
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This is what I found at Gilmourish.. Close
For Run Like Hell, David's using what he refers to as "triplets". Set up one, your main, delay for 380ms, with 7-8 repeats and unity level with the guitar. Set up a second unit, placed after the first, with 507ms, 7-8 repeats and low mix/level.
The effect is similar to what you'd get from those old tape machies, with multiple playback heads. You can very well just use the single 380ms delay but adding the second 507ms, adds emphasis on the first beat and a more reverb-like character to the delays.
David would often set the ouput level on his Binson Echorec quite high back in the early 70s. This created that classic etheral, reverb-like early Floyd sound heard on several albums and not least concert recordings.
He would also raise the pre-amp or input level, which created a fatter and slightly compressed tone. You want an almost exaggerated echo, that pops out on fret and skin buzz on the neck as shown in this clip. -
Alternative approaches (non Kemper)
fore recording, plugin from Pulsar pulsar
and two cheaper than Volante choices
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Alternative approaches (non Kemper)
fore recording, plugin from Pulsar pulsar
and two cheaper than Volante choices
I have the Pulsar plugin and it sounds fantastic. Haven’t tried the Volante, Catalonbread or Dawner but any videos I have seen demoing them all sound great too. It would be amazing to be able to add that specific effect to the Kemper and keep it all in the box though.
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A Strymon Volante is probably the best bet as far as getting full control over panning and feedback and 4 heads etc.
Yes, the Volante sounds amazing from what I’ve seen and heard in demo videos. However, I don’t want to need to use an external pedal or plugin as the big attraction of the KPA is the ability to have a single self contained solution.
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All in the box would surely be best. I still prefer a couple of my dirt pedals, but I would not NEED to use them at all if I was still playing out
I would like a meatier sounding univibe (to use a highly technical term....). Chewier may be better.
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All in the box would surely be best. I still prefer a couple of my dirt pedals, but I would not NEED to use them at all if I was still playing out
I would like a meatier sounding univibe (to use a highly technical term....). Chewier may be better.
agreed, the Univbe doesn’t do it for me at all. I do without now as I don’t want the hassle of hooking up my Roger Mayer Voodoo Vibe.