Drowning in tones ...feeling Disturbed

Dynochrome · August 5, 2021 at 9:07 PM

Quote from Tommacool

Not sure you why you even mentioned that.

Because you said "If your mix has a bad drum sound, everything will fall apart". And I don't think most people will agree that Beatles albums are "falling apart". They may have a bad drum sound, but the whole mix is not falling apart.

Dynochrome · August 5, 2021 at 9:09 PM

Quote from Tommacool

Well on Justice album they turned the bass all the way down on purpose.

I knew that, it was just an example. It was during their "Jason doesn't matter" phase getting over Cliff.

Tommacool · August 5, 2021 at 9:14 PM

Quote from Dynochrome

Because you said "If your mix has a bad drum sound, everything will fall apart". And I don't think most people will agree that Beatles albums are "falling apart". They may have a bad drum sound, but the whole mix is not falling apart.

I am speaking of heavy metal mixes and sounds from 90's until today that has good sound and of course drums are very important. With shitty drums the entire mix dies. And you bring up old vinyl mono crappy sound with bad drum recording as an example? lol are you trolling?

Tommacool · August 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM

Sort of getting there. But it still lacks that "spice" that Disturb has hehe. Probably impossible since it's recorded with real amps and I don't have the same mice placement and room reverb.
I could not manage to replicate the sound with Randall / Bogner (which I know they use. The Kemper profiles I used were too dark / muffled for that. So I Used Reampzone's Marshall with unknown cab blended with Josh Middleton (JTM3 pack) Mesa boogie with Mesa cab.

https://vocaroo.com/1cPt9hKMyflD

Tommacool · August 12, 2021 at 10:42 PM

So here it is, with drums and bass too!

https://vocaroo.com/1j7k3hSvkZs1

Warmart · August 13, 2021 at 12:53 AM

Quote from Tommacool

So here it is, with drums and bass too!

https://vocaroo.com/1j7k3hSvkZs1

Sounds pretty sweet to me, keep it up!

Tommacool · August 13, 2021 at 3:00 AM

Thanks! Actually I am super happy with this sound and got super inspired to write music now.
I was very glad I went on this tone quest. I learned a lot. It took me many days and about 8 - 10 hours per day to get this sound.

Drums: Steven Slate Drums 4: "metal 4" preset; Limited in drum bus with Oxford limiter to give more punch. And then Artsacoustic reverb for more space and live feel. Then routed every kit and EQ'ed the kick and snare. Also added some limiter on snare to give it more punch.
Then EQ'ed the cymbals, overheads and room (cut some lows and removed some high pitching "whistle" sound).
Bass: Cake on cake from Ezmix (Tweaked and EQ'ed a lot, also stereo pan)
Guitars: Kemper profiles (Reampzone and JTM3 - marshall + mesa) = Marshall in middle stereo pan and mesa 100 % left and right.
The marshall is more deep sounding but also has some crisp highs and mids that helps filling up the mesa tones that are mostly on the high end.
Master: T-Racks compressor and EQ.

Tommacool · August 14, 2021 at 3:04 AM

Changed the middle fill Marshall 800 with a Valvestate 8100 (marshall)
It's a profile from the Reampzone Valvestate 8100 marshall.
It got a bit less muddier now:

https://vocaroo.com/161lDwTP7sWa

Warmart · August 16, 2021 at 5:40 PM

Very nice improvement, loving it dude!

Tommacool · September 3, 2021 at 1:55 PM

Sound as of now:

https://voca.ro/1iwZzXxT86Dm

Changed the profiles to Marshall 2000 from CHP and Reampzone's 65050.
it's basically the same recipe, but it sounds a bit smoother and it "glides" a bit better