ok so it is controlling it!
WTF do I do now lol
Kemper midi automation thread
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Hmm. K- midi device A and B are not relevant here- that's for controlling external midi devices FROM the Kemper. Are you SURE you set Cakewalk to use Channel 14?
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?…layback.29.html
The Kemper midi received icon indicates when MIDI is on the port- even if it's on the wrong channel (Tested that just now, not sure if it's a bug or not) -
ok so it is controlling it!
WTF do I do now lolYOU ROCK OUT DUDE!
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But how do I got about setting this so I can map out our set?
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I thought I could program this VIA midi or am I understanding this wrong?
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Ah.
We play to a click, and I align the slot changes to that. You're set up right - so what you need to do now is follow the cakewalk link I sent a few posts ago- you'll start your song off with CC47->the performance number, and then through the song change your slots as needed with CC50/51/52/53/54.
Here's an example - it's Protools, but a picture is worth a thousand words.
Down towards the bottom, you can see the click and cue tracks. Right in the middle, you can see where I've inserted Kemper patch changes - and the keyboard / orchestral tracks are towards the top. There's more out of view- including the original audio take, but that's not really relevant here.
When I print everything (again, we play to backing tracks) I export just the Kemper track as a standalone midi track (which I can then import into my uTrack 24 or QLab. Since Cakewalk supports playlists this may not be necessary. Here's ProTools again, with just the midi track imported.
This is how I have us set up.
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I thought I could program this VIA midi or am I understanding this wrong?
Oh! I've never tried that. I always draw my automation by hand. Gives me very precise control that way. (Also, I do a lot of the automation edits outside of my studio).
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My thing is, I'm not totally understanding that what you just explained. I program midi for our lights and i'm pretty familiar with that. Is there a way to program the kemper the same way? I'm just confused by the CC47 and how to know what patch that correlates to?
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With CC47 - the *value* of that controller selects the
patchperformance.Above- at 1|1|000, you see I'm sending CC#47 with a value of 43. This selects my performance for that song (#43).
Then at 1|1|020 I send CC#50 with a value of 127. This selects slot# 1 for performance #43.
A while later at 28|4|742, I select Slot #2 ( CC51)and then back to Slot 1 at 37|1|083).
Then one last switch to Slot #2 ( CC#51 again )
That's what you see happening here with the multilane envelope view in PT.
I know it might be a bit weird / challenging translating that to Sonar - I don't have a working version of that here otherwise I'd show you with that.
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See this is how that shows up for me. And theres no way to do this with a piano roll or step sequencer?
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also when the daw does switch sometimes it doesn't switch fully it brings it to the screen where you have to hit the top "load" button
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I honestly don't know- that's a cakewalk question. I do it by drawing the envelopes.
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Ok last quick question as this goes on its skips a little bit as it goes through? Any suggestions on fixing that?
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Not following? What do you mean it skips?
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The daw itself seems to hiccup while switching the midi.
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Weird- that's a new one for me. MIDI is such a lightweight protocol. The audio tracks actually stutter?
Not sure I can help with that - do you have midi in and out both plugged in? Unplug the out if so- could be a feedback loop or something.
TBH, I'm guessing a bit. -
The click track doesn't seem to be effected just the clock. Just trying to figure that out
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And also how fast the kemper switches the profile? Maybe the same issue?
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The Kemper switches almost instantaneously. The Kemper's display DOES NOT.
Trust your ears, not your eyes. The patch will take effect before the display updates.
Freaked me out first time I 'saw' that - but in practice it's close-enough-to-instant (if not actually instant, I've not bothered to check that). -
Ok perfect I just need to program this all and get into it! So cc47 is always going to be the start?
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