I had two 2x12" with Kemper Kones. One with two regular, the other with two Neodymium. So I could compare. As always, the only way is A-B comparision IMHO.
I prefered the regular Kones over the Neodymium. They felt closer to the "real" speakers. Guess it was more about the feel.
I made very good experience with IK Multimedia iLoud Micro Monitor, there is even a transport bag, so I'll take them with me for traveling.
Unfortunately discontinued, but you can get excellent results with the Kemper alone
Yes, I know that, I'm using the Kemper alone quite often with special IR's fiting my acoustic Guitars. That's a quite logical aproach to try that first anyway. Good thing is, you can monitor that with the Kone/Kabinet. But as already mentioned, Aura does something more than just a regular IR and for my taste it sounds even better.
Aura is discontinued, but you can get it used quite cheap...
After a good few months of tweaking on the stage profiler with my Godin grand concert nylon, importing IRs into the cab block, no amp, getting a not so convincing reproduction, I decided to try a Fm3 with the same IRs. Much better! Very natural sounding by far!.. but I struggled getting my electronic cleans and overdrives with the Fm3, I wasn't getting the same feel and the way the Fractal responds. And the Kemper has way more headroom. With the Fm3, I had to push my FRFR and the Fm3 to its limits..not good..I got this idea that maybe I could incorporate a Tonex 1 with a acoustic IR in the efx loop of the Stage..BINGO! with no amp or cab block just a booster, graphic EQ, a little compression, reverb, delay...just wondering if anybody has ever tried this?
I made very good experience with Fishman Aura in combination with Kemper. It does something more than just IRs...
I don’t feel complete traveling without a guitar. Fortunately my wife thinks it’s absolutely normal that I take my guitar with me, she even encourages me. My advice, don’t noodle scales if the wife is near, play something beautiful and relaxing using the looper, it might even make her fall asleep. That’s why I spent quite some time in finding a good travel guitar equipment.
If a standard electric guitar is too big, I take my Steinberger Synapse guitar, which fits in an extra-long suitcase. But most airlines accept a standard electric guitar in a bag as carry-on luggage.
Most practical solution is the Quad Cortex (which is surprisingly light), since it is very flexible with a very good internal looper. Kemper Player is also good, but it’s missing an internal looper and the looper pedal adds to the weight (I really don’t understand why Kemper would not include the Looper in a travel friendly device…???!!!???). If it has to be very light, the Tonex One is the best solution (you don’t even need a power supply, just use the phone charger). If you use it right, it sounds very good! And even together with the looper pedal it is still lighter than the Kemper Player, but it only has Reverb and Compressor as effects. Hotone Ampero Mini is not bad either, all effects and looper included, very light and small and the sound is more than ok.
For Speakers I choose between Marshall Kilburn 2 which sounds very good with zero latency (Attention! Many Bluetooth speakers have quite some latency on line in). Even better is IK Multimedia’s iLoud which gives you a great travel sound system even working fine for small spontaneous parties.
I would say that all theses solutions will sound better than any travel amplifier I ever tried, but that’s just my experience.
The best option in my opinion is Quad Cortex together with iLoud, sounds awesome and you can even connect up to 4 Instruments to QC if needed, each having it’s own signal path.
Have fun!!
This was actually the amp I played for years before buying a Kemper. I played it with a Marshall 4x12” 1960V.
It has a lot of great sounds and with the Midi control it can be used for almost any style.
But… I used it mostly in the first two channels since the other channels have a lot of gain, to much form my taste.
I know that this thread is old... but... how's your experience with the KSR PA50? How does it feel in combination with Kemper?
I totally agree. The Kemper Player is the ultimate travel solution for practicing in hotel rooms. So implementing the Looper Function would save the weight of an external looper pedal…
Not sure why you see that is offensive but sorry you took it that way. It was a light hearted comment which I can only imagine is likely to offend deaf people, but anyway...
There is some facts in my statement, not totally subjective.
The volume from a 600watt Class D Amp going into a 200watt cab running at 4 ohms with the right eq is very loud.
Many people on this forum have complained at not enough volume and then realized their power boost is not turned up.
As a sound engineer you will understand that 2 x12 kones run by the same power amp will instantly drop the volume. I don't know the science behind this but my simple understanding is in series the resistance doubles to 8 ohms, which means the power amp can only provide less power ( 300 watts I think). You can't run is parallel as the ohmage would drop below 4 ohms. This isn't subjective although appreciate its not all linear ( power vs volume etc).
I found running 2 speakers produced no more spread if stacked ( like a 2x12). That wasn't just me, no one in my band or when I gigged this config noticed. In fact 1x12 had a minor improvement. This is subjective and I suspect your difference might have been the cab itself - I used 2 Kabinets so it was consistant. Therefore would essentially be an eq rather than volume point.
Whilst I agree people should try it, its expensive to just buy speakers to try out ( retrun policies are not the same everywhere). My point is, logically "just" adding another speaker, particularly in the same cabinet will not increase volume which is what I experienced.
Happy to be corrected..
thanks for these thoughts. I'm sorry that I did not answer earlier!! right now I'm very busy with electronical problems with machines at my regular job. As soon as I'll find time I'm planning to prepare an electrotechnical/acoustical analysis about this topic. But that will take some time. I don’t want to speculate, so I’ll have to study some theory first to be able to explain it scientifically.
I use a 2x12" loaded with Kones. That works very well !
I guess 4x12" would be fun, they move a lot of air 
Just remembering the time when I had the 100W Marshall with the 4x12" V30 cabinet.... 
was a good feeling!
If I'll ever play in a Rock band again, I will get a second 2x12" and equip it with my spare Kones to use both of them together.
To try and kill this.....
First - I use a Kabinet with the Powerrack....during one rehearsal I decided to turn it up to painful levels - way louder than any loud drummer i've gigged with...and that showed on the power meter around 25 to 30 watts.
This is all different to spread and cut which play a huge part. I have found that the Kabinet has way, way more spread than a 4x12 even. With regards to cut, that depends on speaker placement and eq - if you sound clashes, it will get drowned out by the other instrument so finding your own sonic space is essential.
Comparing to PA speakers is pointless because they are dealing with different speakers. For example, 100w valve amp is plenty for a guitar but relatively low power for Bass guitar. PA speaker are FRFR but they have to contend with so many frequencies, whereas guitars are relatively narrow.
Finally,. this is all for monitoring only. Anyone trying to play purely off the backline, regardless of amp set up etc., will get problems.
So, anyone that does not get enough volume out of the kabinet for monitoring has either got a setting wrong or is deaf IMO.
I strongly disagree. That might be your experience, some people made others. You wrote:
"So, anyone that does not get enough volume out of the kabinet for monitoring has either got a setting wrong or is deaf IMO."
I think that is pretty offensive!! I'm neither deaf nor do I get the settings wrong (I'm electronic engineer with knowledge about electronics and acoustics).
And I'm not the only one who made this experience as you can read from more than one user!
Only because it works for you does not mean that it works for others. And if poeple don't agree with ones experiences, there is no need to get offensive.
I recommend to everybody, try it out yourself. Compare 1x12" Kone with 2x12" Kone and you'll find out what works better for you. I did that several times and in diferent situations and I came to my conclusion. So I would, if a drummer is involved, use 2x Kabinet or a 2x12" loaded with Kones (if you don't connect the Kemper to additional monitors on stage or PA for rehearsal)
Yup i had a gig not sufficient PA system so we went really loud. Bad smell as mentioned fuzzy sound. Speaker damaged. I go to pick up a second hand one suturday. Got trough the gig on another cab from other band. Sounded different. Was bummed. But you can blow these things. Hahaha.
with 2x12 Kone you should be able to manage situations like that. I don't trus 1x12 Kone anymore
Btw. 2x12 sounds better IMO
For playing live I think 4 FX slots should be enough for 99% of use cases, for me anyway.
I would not mess the display. Using the smartphone or tablet is much more convenient IMO. So you don't need to bend down with the guitar hanging around your neck.
The only thing that I would miss is the Looper (support already confirmed that his is not on board). It would be great for traveling purposes, playing in a hotel room with only this unit and a little speaker. Maybe they'll add it with a future upgrade...? There's much about weight and most the competitors do have the looper included.
It's great though that the unit supports Kone/Kabinet. So you can have a very light, simple, extremely flexible and incredibly good sounding little amp.
Guess I’ll have to order one. I already own a QuadCortex additional to my Kemper, which is also great, but I still prefer the KEMPER workflow somehow…
I don't see what could be the advantage over Kemper since this device does not even have a profiling (or capturing) functionality...
And... for live use IMO the Kemper Remote architecture is still the smartest of them all.
I would definitvely prefere a Kemper Stage with two Powered Kabinets
I had an Atomic Amplifire once and compared it to Kemper.
The form factor is nice. But I did not like the sound at all. It had strange digital artefacts in the sustain of a note. No problem for hight gain, but anoying IMO for overdrive and brake up tones.
I wanted one and now I have one/ will soon have one
... from IK Multimedia
... when it's back in stock, it is sold out, right now at Thomann Germany
IMHO missed opportunity from Kemper.
Same here, always wished for a mini Kemper. Now I own a Quad Cortex
There's something interesting happening here in Switzerland
There's a website where you can buy used things.
Usually you could find only one or two Kempers there.
Since Tonex was released there are constantly five to ten Kempers for sale. Interesting...
not the right tone for this forum
you're right, I'm sorry, I apologise for my sarcasm
Also….How does one create an IR for a technology requiring a special speaker.and is specifically designed to eliminate the one thing an IR requires? That being a microphone to capture the sound. The response part of Impulse Response.
If it could be done, someone would have, and not just for imprints.
Didn't you understand what I wrote in my first post??
Shall I make a drawing for you?
