Posts by jippitygem25

Quote from SonusStudios

Sorry for the late reply. Not much online last few days.

Very awesome to read you took the plunge and actually got it working. With a full band even!

Yeah, the mixing options are great. It actually provides options a lot of people usually don't have when practicing.

I was briefly online last weekend. And there was quite a big update. It read that they had a lot of improvements but sadly I actually had more troubles than before. Mainly with not being able to hear random others. This has been a problem for months and it seems to come and go. It was non-existant for me the last few times but the newest updates brought it back to life.

The good thing is they really seem to work hard on the soft and hardware since they went paid so I'm going to assume it will keep getting better eventually. But again, great to see that a bunch of guys like you can get it setup like that! Many are still sceptical.

Tried Jamulus for the first time yesterday. Also tried Jam Kazam but some really weird stuff in terms of wonky noise and artifact noise was happening with Jam Kazam so I stopped trying it. Jamulus was pretty fun. For the small amount of latency I was experiencing, it was worth the trade-off of being able to join a random jam with strangers and practice the guitar in that capacity. Being able to join an impromptu jam every day with different people is a fantastic learning tool. A little bit of latency like I said, is well worth the trade-off of having to figure out what to play in that moment. And with no video, even a better way to use your ears! I only fooled around with it for a bit, and I didn't try to optimize any settings outside of the main beginner setup. But when I was reading this page, I didn't understand the Jamulus "Golden Rule." See link below:

https://jamulus.io/wiki/Client-Tr…o-keep-together

How do you not hear yourself and just listen for the server sound? Any tips for optimizing sound and overall experience in Jamulus? It was a lot of fun! I am using a PC with a wired connection as well. My latency was at 8 milliseconds which I've read is average. I can definitely tell there's a little latency on my end because my guitar tone just has that weird artificial sound you get from latency. Like I said it's manageable just because it's such a valuable learning tool. But I would like to dig in more and make it better. Any tips or advice are greatly welcome. I was using my Fractal FM3 which also acts as an audio interface.

Quote from Chris Duncan

Or a bad cable between the mixer and transmitter?

Also, if you're running stereo to the IEMs, maybe someone panned you hard L or R at the mixer.

I will have to check that. I know my Shure PSM300 has two channel inputs on the back but I don't ever remember using both. I remember using one and they worked both sides

Quote from BayouTexan

Sounds like you are getting just one channel sent to your ears. So maybe in the routing of the mixer?

Okay thats what I think but how would I check for another missing channel?

For the past two rehearsals, my in ear monitors have only been coming out of one side. I don’t remember having this issue in the past. And if I plug my in ears into the head phones jack of my FM3 or Stage just to mess around at home, both sides produce sound. So I think they work properly. Unplugged and plugged back into my pack several times. Something on the board or mixer I need to do/check?

Quote from V8guitar

The Pa will be ok to try your Kemper out on its own but as Alan said, no good for vocals and Kemper at the same time.

However it is very sensible to try all of this out pre gig, last thing you want is to be messing around with settings at soundcheck.

I would focus on XLR out so make sure you have a decent XLR lead. That PA does have phantom power, make sure its off. Also try the ground lift switch on the back to eliminate ground issues...

What is phantom power? And when you both say no good for vocals and Kemper at the same time, what exactly does that mean? That it's not powerful enough and will cause unwanted noise/hissing?

This was the PA we were using yesterday. This is not the PA we will be using for the gig, but I am curious to practice troubleshooting on this PA if possible.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EON208P--jbl-eon208p

Unless this PA is just too weak to handle the Kemper?

Quote from Wheresthedug

It sounds like you are over loading the input on the board. As Yoda said, tick the -12db box and keep the main output of the KPA low enough that it doesn’t clip the input of the board. You can then raise volume on the channel fader without clipping the input.

thanks, I had the -12dB on for sure. So you’re suggesting just lower my master volume and then if it goes away raise the PA channel volume ? And volume of my monitor?

Quote from Yoda Guitar

Did you use the -12dB pad switch on Kemper ? for some boards the Kemper output is to hot.
Phantom Power is off at the mix-board input channel ?

If possible use a Line Input on the Mixing Board.

Other idea if you have try a DI-Box in between Kemper and Board

yeah mate I had the -12dB switch on. What is phantom power? I can check for that next time. DI Box is a good idea. This wasn’t a very high end PA it’s one of the ones where you click the 2 speakers into the board and can carry it all together lol

Okay so I had a rehearsal today and I think I was able to raise my monitor volume without raising the volume on the PA. However, I had a new issue. With both an XLR cable and a line out (tried separately), I kept getting some fizzly noise through the PA speakers, and only the PA speakers, it did not come through the monitor. The noise was less loud with the 1/4" line out, but still there. Any ideas how to resolve this on the spot? Tuner did not mute it. I went into output and twisted many knobs, but none had an effect on it. Possible issues with cable but it happened with both a XLR and 1/4" line out. Possibly a crappy PA?

Quote from Burkhard

The Master Volume knob acts as a master control of all output volumes linked to it:

Main Output Volume

Monitor Output Volume

Headphone Output Volume

S/PDIF Output Volume

If you unlink for example Main Output Volume, it's level - that you set in the Output Section - sticks and doesn't follow Master Volume anymore.

This matter is covered in the printed Quick Start Manual that comes with the PROFILER.

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Let me read the manual then and report back any questions or further confusion.

Quote from sstauffer

I know you were asking BayouTexan but that would be the preferred way to send the monitor output to the Headrush and the Main output to FOH. In the output section they recommend that you use the -12db. I would also set the main volume level somewhere between 0 and 10 db and leave it there by unlinking the Main Out Link also in the output level, that way when you turn the Kemper volume up or down you are only changing your monitor volume without effecting the front of house.

So my main volume doesn't go above 0 db. Did you mean between -10 and 0 db? Also, you say to unlink the Main Out Link but yours is still is checked on. Should I have it checked on or off? What does it do? And yes, my Main Out -12 db is checked to be active.

Quote from BayouTexan

Do you have the Headrush output to the FOH? Why not have the Kemper output to FOH.

so send a cable from the kemper to the board instead of from the headrush to the board?

Last couple times I rehearsed (pre-COVID), I remembered everytime I turned my headrush monitor volume up (using the knob on the back of the monitor) it increased my volume coming out of the PA as well, which I didn't want. And it didn't always behave that way. How can I counter this and just turn my monitor volume up without affecting FOH volume?

Cool stuff. What kind of EQ'ing do you do when dialing in a high gain profile? I have trouble dialing in heavier tones, I think it's just because my ears don't really know what to look out for. Usually if I play Dimebag stuff I just get a hot marshall type tone, but there are so many amps/profiles that have that next level but it's harder to EQ for me

I have a brand new powerful PC hardwired to my internet so the hard ware should be fine there. Usually i just plug my kemper to my computer via ethernet and play, but I do have a Line 6 Toneport UX2 for my laptop. Will that have too much latency? Im assuming I can't just plug the kemper to the PC and forego a DAW interface right?

Quote from SonusStudios

Latency is indeed the biggest deal breaker. But it doesn't need to be. It depends on your hardware, software and distance to the other players. Jamulus and Jamkazam do a good job reducing the latency as much as possible.

But yes, you can play perfectly fine with other people. I even jam with people across the ocean.
Key is to always monitor through the software. So you hear yourself after you went through the server and back. And not monitor locally.

The best start is a low latency setup (audio interface).

I have an e-drum connected and depending on the room I can use it without any problems. It's really awesome. Same with guitar and vocals.

It gets technical quite quickly though so I have to admit it might take some setting up. And if you have a low latency audio interface you're off to a bad start.

What would be a low latency audio interface?

Quote from SonusStudios

The past year I've been using software like Jamkazam and Jamulus to jam online. It's great fun and works really well provided you have your hardware and software setup correctly and the people in your room have so as well.

While there certainly were quite some new users due to the Covid lockdown, it still is relatively empty. Anywhere from 2 to 10 rooms on busy evenings. Of which most are labeled "pop and country". Rarely any rock and metal unfortunately. But of course you can start your own at any time.

I guess I'm on a mission to get more people online.

Jamulus is free and the more sophisticated Jamkazam is free to try out for a few hours. But I'm happily paying 10 dollars a month for unlimted access. The devs are really working hard to improve the software all the time.

So I'm wondering if people have heard of it at all. What's holding you back from trying it?
Let me know if you have any questions.

Damn I was always under the impression this type of software just has too much latency. Does it actually work well? Like you can jam or rehearse without any hiccups? How do the drums participate?

Quote from Chris Duncan

That seems to be related to Office licensing.

Whether an app is the culprit or the victim isn't always clear. Obviously there's some bad interaction happening somewhere that's triggered by RM, but it may not be the bit of software that actually locks up your box, e.g. RM pisses off another bit of software, and in it's unhappy state the latter does something evil to the system to lock up. So, when I look in the event log for errors I'm not necessarily looking for message from the app I care about like RM, but rather anything and everything bad that's happening around the time the box locks up.

Is there any other software that's been installed around the time of your first Rig Manager installation? That's another thing I look for. Computers are useless without software, and yet the most evil thing you can do to a computer is install software. If there were other things that were installed around the time that you first put RM on your box, I would try uninstalling those, uninstalling RM, then putting RM back on to see if it plays nice in that context.

Another thing that I'd check is the version of RM and the version of the Kemper OS. I think they're usually pretty good about enforcing version x requires version y, but you might post both to see if there are any known issues with that particular combination.

This sort of bug hunt can be frustrating to say the least, made all the worse by the fact that your Windows environment is constantly changing whether you want it to or not.

I hear ya mate, like I said Im brand new to the Windows world. I have to turn the PC off every night because Sleep mode lasts all of maybe 5-10 minutes before it wakes up LOL. I put in a ticket with Kemper Support so maybe they can help me troubleshoot step by step to find an issue somewhere

Quote from Chris Duncan

If it says the device is working properly then your driver is probably fine.

Another thing you could try is to launch the Event Viewer. Look under Windows Logs, Application. You can right click on Application and select Filter Current Log. In the dialog box that comes up, I usually check Critical and Error first to see what jumps out at me. Warnings are sometimes helpful but often just offer a lot of extra noise that gets in the way.

If your box is locking up, there's a good chance there are some errors. See if you can find anything that's around the same time of your lockups and it might help point to the culprit.

Sometimes Application A (RM or the USB for the Stage) freaks out because Something B needs to be updated. As an example, a while back I was getting lockups on a box that turned out to be related to my video card needing a new driver. I usually find the breadcrumbs to track this kind of thing via the Event Viewer.

Very interesting mate. Yeah, I checked the Event Viewer per your suggestion. No errors/issues related to kemper. There is one common error I've been getting the last few days and it's something like "officec2rclient.exe" or something like that (apologies I should've wrote it down last night and am not near my PC now). I'm pretty sure it's got something to do with my Microsoft Office account so idk if that would be the culprit. But, again, like I stated earlier, the "crash" only happens when I have kemper hooked up to PC via cable and Rig Manager is being used.

Quote from Chris Duncan

For another thing to look at, bring up Device Manager. In the View menu, click "Show Hidden Devices." Now expand the Sound, video and game controllers node. Right click the Kemper Profiler and see if it's reporting that it's working properly. If not, make note of the error and post it here. Also note if you see more than one entry for the Kemper.

That's what comes to mind off the top of my head. Let me know the info and I'll help further if I'm able.

So I checked this part and it says the Kemper Profiler is working properly. I can update the driver, should I do that? But I can confirm that my system's error report doesnt show anything regarding this issue