SeanChristopher Please open a new thread with your questions to where is christophe
Thanks!
no problem! my apologies for getting too off topic 🙏🏻
I'm just getting excited about trying out the 2.0 Profiles on my Mk2 Stage soon 😅
Posts by SeanChristopher
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No one is being marginalized for not owning an mk2. This forum has hundreds if not thousands of threads for various purposes, no small number of. Many are oriented towards potential customers. The speculation thread of what 2.0 would be like was 50 pages!
Now that 2.0 is here, they created a thread specifically for people who are using 2.0 to give firsthand experience. To marginalize those who don’t have a mk2 yet? No. So that people who don’t have one yet can get firsthand information from users who HAVE used it, without having to dig through pages and pages of hearsay from those who haven’t. I have an MK2 stage, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to put 2.0 through its paces (and no longer own an amp to profile.) So there’s no reason anybody needs to hear my opinion about 2.0 on a thread dedicated to people who actually have firsthand experience.
No one is posting opinions as if they have tested something they haven't
What we're seeing is people be silenced for asking legitimate questions or being told to not comment or ask about the new 2.0 Profiles unless having tried them first hand
Apparently people can't post concerns or questions without being berated and that's sad behavior I truly didn't expect from this community.
Not everyone is engaging in that behavior but there are definitely some that are
As if asking valid questions or bringing up valid concerns based on what we've seen around the subject somehow threatens everyones Mk2 purchase and the pitchforks come out.
Telling someone asking about Mk2 units or 2.0 Profiling "don't ask or talk about it unless you have one" is exclusionary behavior no matter how you twist it
It's one thing if someone is making comments as if they experienced it firsthand, that makes sense to discourage. But I've yet to see that kind of comment. It's usually someone bringing up a concern based on something they've seen or heard and then being told they can't talk because they haven't played through or don't have a mk2. Discouraging and disregarding valid concerns and questions from people unless they own a Mk2 unit is literally marginalization lol
A group of people treating someone or another group of people like their opinions/concerns are insignificant and not worth hearing because they don't meet a criteria that you have in mind is literally what marginalization is. The fact that it's being encouraged is pretty disappointing to see
Imagine going up to a car meetup and asking about the nice cars and bringing up questions and concerns as a potential buyer of the same kind of car to fellow car guys, and being told by everyone there "you don't have a place to even ask or talk about it because you don't have one of the same cars as us". Not only is that incredibly ill mannered behavior but its literally what marginalization is. That's what people are basically doing to fellow forum members who are bringing up valid questions and concerns.
Hopefully everyone here can consider that perspective before they automatically go to jumping at each other for bringing up questions or concerns from people who are in different circumstances or working with different hardware
At the end of the day we're a community and community is supposed to be supportive and helpful towards each other. Many forum members have helped me tremendously over the years and it's unfortunate to not see all of the forum members carrying that same spirit of community that helped me out so much when I started frequenting this forum. I'd love to see that same helpful and supportive attitude extended towards people bringing up valid questions or concerns. Lets all try to remember that we're all part of the same community and that some are in tough spots financially or in life - that a lot of us struggled to get out of at some point in our past. So let's try our best to be supportive and a community that helps each other and builds each other up.
P.S. this is all coming from someone who is getting a Mk2 unit soon anyways. I just want us to be a supportive community regardless of any differences or differing opinions
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Well, it's a pack containing the 1.0 Profiles and the 2.0 as well. Both work on MKI
That's a great point my friend! lol I might have to check those out and have em ready for my Mk2 😅
One of my favorite amp sounds is a modern british voiced amp! I play alot of metal so tight is my best friend when the chugging starts 😂
Which Mk2 unit are you working with and which Mk1 unit/units were you using beforehand?
I just upgraded to OS 14 so i'm about to try out some Classic and 2.0 Profiles on the new OS with my Mk1 Stage unit. I might add that pack to the profiles i'm trying out on the new OS 😁
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I've bought my first 2.0 pack yesterday, the Granophyre one by Live Ready Sound. While I loved a handful of the 1.0 profiles I use, the (properly done I guess) 2.0 is in a different league. 2.0 has way more clarity and definition.
Would it be noticed in a live mix ? I'm not sure.
How does that amp sound? I've been curious lol
I love Live Ready Sound profies so I'll have to check those out when I get my Mk2 soon!
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Basically you are talking about a thing you never played and can't notice dynamics under the fingers. Maybe just the real thing instead of talking about yt videos
Not everyone has access to a MkII unit but are curious about it. And assuming everyone can and discounting any opinions or discussion material of others unless they've played one is an unfortunate example of marginalization and ostracism.
The comments basically saying "you can't even post or talk about it unless you have one or played one"as if any discussion material from an outside perspective is a pretty poor mentality to have and isn't very community oriented.
I'm suprised at a lot of the people on here acting like that.
This was a community where people helped people out, discussed ideas and opinions, and exchanged information. It wasn't initally "only positive user input and no outside criticism" and now that it is when people are bringing up the legitimate questions just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
It's like a newcomer asking about peoples Kemper experiences while considering getting a Kemper unit, and they post vids of people loving their Kemper tones and wanting to get one because of the content they've seen, and then people on this forum telling them "don't even ask or talk about it, you don't have one so we don't care about your questions or comments". What kind of community does that make us if that's our attitude?
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OS 13 ist also able to play 2.0 profiles with mk1 units
Can they really?? Do they load the same as they would with Public Beta OS14?
I haven't tried to import any 2.0 Profiles yet since i'm on a not current version of RM and the previous OS for stability.
But I think I'm at least updated to OS13 so I'll give it a shot! I appreciate the tip 🙏🏻
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I hear you. There really is no substitute for trying yourself. The good news is that you can install Beta to try it then roll back to last full release afterwards. I think (from memory) there is even a single click option in RM to do so. In which case trying it during some down time might be a viable option. Maybe just confirm this with Kemper before doing anything rash though 😉
Wheresthedug you're a genius!! I didn't even think of the rolling back to the last full release! I'll confirm as you recommended but I remember rolling back after really bad glitches with various beta OS versions. I totally forgot that was even a thing haha
You just made my night and I'm excited to finally try the 2.0 Profiles through my Mk1
Not as excited as I am for the Mk2 unit in a few weeks but, i'm getting ahead of myself haha 😂
Thanks again brother, you're always a huge help. A true gentlemen and I appreciate you!
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There is a difference and you have to test it for yourself to know. Unfortunately you have to invest on a MK2,
Yeah the ASIO bug is frustrating.
Of course, one would have to try first hand to know first hand.
But not everyone can afford to upgrade and I'm sure many Mk1 users would appreciate knowing if even a percentage of the benefits of the newer 2.0 Profiles carry over when played through a Mk1.
I'm upgrading in a few weeks yet i'm still curious and think it's a valid question for Mk1 users.
Are you saying there IS a difference between Classic and 2.0 Profiles when played through a Mk1 unit?
Or that theres a difference between playing 2.0 Profiles through Mk1 and Mk2 units? Because I keep getting told that even though that's not what i've been asking haha😅 So I hope you meant it the first way 😂
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Obviously GString and the other guys at Kemper are the only ones that know what is going on below the surface. My own limited user experience on the specific amp I tried was that even the Mark 1 hardware playing a 2.0 profile still sounded “better” than the Classic profile on either hardware iteration. Is it the same as using Mark 2 hardware? Obviously not. Kemper have made it quite clear that MK1 devices cannot produce exactly the same performance as newer MK2 version. Is the difference bog enough to worry about? One the one profile of one amp that I have tried so far; no. But one profile of one amp isma pretty limited data set 😆
I totally get that and the new Profiling is why I'm upgrading soon lol 😄
Not everyone can afford to upgrade soon or at all, and I'm sure a lot of people who can't afford to upgrade would like to know if the 2.0 Profiles will still be an improvement over the Classic Profiles when played through a Mk1 unit, even if the level of improvement isn't as large as when playing through a Mk2 unit.
It felt like my question was being taken by others as "do we even need to upgrade", but I was just asking a genuine question for the Mk1 users.
Before asking you, I was having a hard time getting a straight answer lol. I keep on getting an answer to a different question like "with the Mk1 units you can't fully experience all of the improvements of the new 2.0 Profiles". Which makes sense and I can understand that. But my question is if any of the improvements at all will carry over to Mk1 units when playing 2.0 Profiles since they were made with a better profiling algorithm lol.
I figured I'd ask you since you're the only person I've seen mention trying the new 2.0 Profiles through a Mk1 unit, and you're always a straight shooter. I'm not trying to put it on you to find out or saying you didn't answer my question lol you were a huge help with your reply. I appreciate your honesty and the reply.
I'd try the 2.0 Profiles through my Mk1 and put the question to bed but, the current beta has an ASIO driver bug that would halt my ability to be able to track guitar in my DAW and I'm on a deadline lol 😅
I really hope they fix that bug in the current beta so I can try the new 2.0 Profiles out 🤣 and I'm hoping I can upgrade to a Mk2 Stage soon too lol
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Profiling 2.0 approaches things a bit differently. There isn’t a simple yes-or-no answer to your question—you’ll likely need to decide on a case-by-case basis which option you prefer. In general, though, it doesn’t provide a quality improvement on an MK1. In other words: the things that really make a difference, the MK1 cannot do.
Okay, thank you for clearing that up!
I was just curious if the Mk1 units playing 2.0 profiles would be even an incremental difference compared to the classic profiles due to the new profiling algorithm, even if the 2.0 Profiles are scaled down for Mk1 units
I'll just have to find out lol
I'm awaiting the Asio driver bug to be fixed before trying the new OS since I'm currently recording an album. But I'm excited to try the new 2.0 Profiles and to try out a Mk2 unit when I'm able to get one
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The MK1 cannot reproduce new 2.0 Profiles with the same level of quality as the MK2 or Player. While the difference can be difficult to describe precisely, the key point is that all the improvements and benefits users report with 2.0 Profiles are only fully realized on the MK2 or Player. On an MK1, you won’t be able to experience these enhancements.
I understand the 2.0 Profiles can't be played at full fidelity or resolution in Mk1 units and that a Mk2 unit would be required for the full benefits of the improvements. I definitely am upgrading soon
Will the 2.0 Profiles still be an improvement over Classic Profiles when played through Mk1 units, even if the quality is at a lower level than when a 2.0 Profile is played through a Mk2 unit or Player?
Will 2.0 Profiles sound the exact same as Classic Profiles made with the Classic Profiling algorithm when played through a Mk1 unit, or will they still sound somewhat enhanced since the profiles were made with the new 2.0 Profiling algorithm?
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I’m not aware of any conflicting information. kemper have been very clear that Mk1 hardware will be able to play 2.0 profiles but at a lower resolution. My experience, having tried the same profiles on both platforms is that any lower resolution on Mk1 hardware is minimal (at least to my ears) so 2.0 profiles on Mk1 hardware is still a great step forward even if Mk2 hardware is even better.
This is one of the things i've been trying to find out so thanks Wheresthedug!
I've been curious if the improvements of 2.0 Profiles will carry over to the Mk1 unit when playing 2.0 Profiles, even if the Mk1 units are playing the profiles at lower resolution.
I saw you mentioned you got a chance to test 2.0 Profiles through Mk1 and Mk2 units for a quick second. Did you get a chance to do any futher testing with playing the 2.0 Profiles through a Mk1 unit? I'd truly appreciate anyone being able to test it and let me know since I can't lol
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It could easily be seen as clickbait. Profiling 2.0 can’t be properly evaluated using a Profiler MK1. The improvements and added quality simply don’t translate to the older platform. The Profiler MK1 does not benefit from the additional options in the CAB section and we will not be able to change that.
Will 2.0 Profiles lose fidelity and quality when played through a Mk1 unit? Will 2.0 Profiles played on Mk1 units be compressed more and have the differences of a 1.0 Profile as if the profile was made on a Mk1 unit? Or will 2.0 Profiles still be higher fidelity than Classic Profiles when played through a Mk1 unit, but stil with a lower fidelity than the Mk2 units?
While it would be nice for the new CAB section parameters to be somewhat implemented in a way for the Mk1 units as well for cohesiveness, I understand they can't be transferred to the Mk1 as they are unfortunately.
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S23 Ultra here as well. It connects immediately
Which method did you use to connect?
I'm thinking of reinstalling the update and then trying to connect again from the beggining.
It's driving me crazy that my Profiler Stage will connect to my home network but won't connect to my s23 Ultra after my it shows up in the Rig Manager App lol!
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After a bunch of trial and error and manually putting in the SSID and Password on the Stage, and even an error message after a restart, I finally got the Stage unit to connect to my home network and show up right in the System Menu. And I finally got my Profiler Stage to show up in the app to allow me to try to connect to it.
But now when I try to connect to my Profiler Stage in the app, I get an error message on my S23 Ultra (running Android 13) that says "Cannot connect to Profiler. Please ensure that the Rig Manager App has access to devices in the local network.
It worked much easier with Access Point Mode but then my phones using data instead of wifi while i'm at home and my reception at home is terrible so I rely on the wifi for a lot. I was hoping the Home Network Mode would work as well as the Access Point Mode!
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I have the same issue with my Stage unit as well! I'm trying to pull up the manual to find how you guys were able to connect! I did the access point mode at first but it doesn't always connect so I wanted to try the main WPS method and found that the button doesn't do anything even after pushing the WPS button on my router.
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After the last RM update, the BrightCap Intensity parameter doesn't show up in the RM Editor anymore. I'm not sure if it was the last OS update, or if the last RM update caused it, but I noticed it after updating both RM and my Kemper Stage's OS. RM first and then the OS update prompt to update my Kemper Stage showed up after updating RM.
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling RM and reverting my Kemper Stage's OS and updating it again and it didn't fix anything unfortunately.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm running the the latest version of RM on a PC running Windows 11
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I'm experiencing the same issue others have mentioned with the bright cap not doing anything on the unit or RM
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I was confused looking at the list of new amp models because I didn't think I saw any new ones at first. But after a second glance, I realized there are a ton more Fender amp models now! They must have blurred together with the other ones because there were already a good number of Fender amp models on the list lol.
I'm glad they're adding to the amp model list! And it's always great to see more amp models and more functionality added to the Profiler.
But It would be nice to see some other amp brands with some variety on there though. Maybe some more Friedman amps, Mesa Mark series amps, and Diezel amps would be really cool to see added to the list!
The update went super smooth on my Stage so far. I updated from the last public beta. I'll update my post if anything changes or if I run into any issues
