okay don't download it people. That brings up an interesting point though...It was in the rig exchange, I added a IR cab and tweaked it...so at what point do you call it your own? We had this same problem with synthesizer patches years back...you take a factory preset, modify it and share it...nobody ever thought anything about it. Im not selling or even putting my name on it.
Posts by rsherhuth
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I took the model and added my own IR cab, and tweaked the sound a bit.
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Oops it was my modified patch of his...tell me how to get it out of my kemper and I will share it with you
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I think its out of the Rig Exchange. I will show you my favorite patch of all... If you don't mind my crappy playin.
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Sorry I gave the wrong patch... it was actually P-Tone 145 by B. Ruppert
He did have a pitch effect on the original with a delay. It was perfectly Bare this time.
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Okay you guys are geniuses! Sooooo much better. I made sure I used (non/TRS cables. I zeroed out any gain reduction. Besides some intonation issues (my fault) It sounds much better. No effects this time...it seems I didn't have them all off last time.
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okay i will do a new distortion track with the suggestions you all generously provided.
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I spent no time recording it...fired it up and played those two simple tracks. If I don't those negative values the input clips, the output also clips. Its gain staged to match my style. Yes I use TRS plugs.
I hadn't tried flipping the polarity GREAT IDEA for sure. So there is probably some phase cancelation going on which makes sense. I used the raw patches so they might have some effects on them (most likely a light reverb, and MBritt usually adds a touch, but nothing else.
I could do without the slamming of my abilities...I'm a humble man asking for help from others.
I will gain stage it based on your suggestions. Thank you.
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AdamMassacre1981 Yeah Im thinking about that too. This is my last ditch effort. Im getting great tones out of the plugins, but I can't use them while I have a $2000 Green Monster staring at me. It just might be time for me to sell. PS...try Scuffman plugins...you wont believe the distorted tone.
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unclemar thanks for sharing...awesome stuff! You are using mostly clean"ish" tones which aren't really a problem...its the distorted tones that are my issue.
BTW: love the early David Lee Roth vocal vibe!
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I have to be missing something for sure. The clean sounds are always great, but the distortion is always about the same no matter the patch. And I'm not sure why I got those weird cutouts...thats new to me.
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As requested here are two simple tracks.
Clean: Guitar EVH Wolfgang - EVH strings 46-9 - EVH neck pickup - Patch: MB Plexi Clean
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gj2ykupghrz4…28R%29.wav?dl=0
Distortion: EVH Wolfgang - EVH strings 46-9 - EVH bridge pickup - Patch: MB Plexi 9
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iiffhxln9jbp…28R%29.wav?dl=0
I have no problems with the clean tone...I think it is fantastic.
The distortion track is a hot mess...No lows, Fizzing out the top end, total lack of definition.
EVH Wolfgang - EVH strings 46-9 - EVH neck pickup - Patch: MB Plexi Clean
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I use the rear master outs (1/4") Output source is set to Master out...I tried the others as well.
What are studio profiles? I use Michael Britts profiles most of the time.
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Tried that...my 5150III sounded terrible...all that lush beautiful gain turned into a fuzz fest. I use MBritt profiles exclusively, he does a hell of a lot better than I do at profiling and getting the sound right.
I live in a townhouse...and the first time I profiled that amp I nearly soiled myself...I thought for sure aliens were coming to get me. I actually recorded the sounds made during the profile session and I have used parts of them in several tracks, low in the mix of course.
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I'm Ron. I am a sound engineer and session guy.
I've had my profiler for over a year now and wrestled with recording this unit every step of the way...and yes I RTFM
I don't get it...the sound in my daw I get from a kemper is thin, fizzy (Hi gain profiles) and needs a whole lot of eqing it to get it to sound like an amp.
For me it takes a seven band parametric eq to get the sound I demand. Yet I can plug my guitar in to a interface right to the daw and use BIAS, Guitar Rig 5, Amplitube 5 and get a tone that is much richer, wider, fuller etc. I don't buy all this "but its designed to sit in the mix", and it's not moving air bs. The plug-in guys seem to have got it right. Just give me everything and I will make it sit in the mix right, I hate when companies make decisions based on what they think we need. This is a $2000+ unit, and I always end up double tracking with a plugin. They taut a tube feeling...seriously...I have 3 tube amps they react to every little touch...all I get with the Kemper is like round robin sampling...it sounds the same nearly at all velocities. It took me ages to finally detect the fizz, and dynamically compress the 2 frequencies resposible...because if you use an eq you lose any thickness you might have managed to squeeze out of the tone. Don't you dare tell me about their 3 band output eq. They are much too wide banded to make a positive difference.
So if your still with me (and finished plotting my death) I give up...what are the correct settings that people are using to record these things? My signal chain is balanced perfect (why a company needs to put an option for - 12db padding on the output...sheesh) I do use -18 on the input signal and I took clean and distortion sensitivity to - 5db. My input is the front input. On all profiles I have eq cabinet, amplifier and stack on. I don't tweak any eq settings no matter how bad the sound is. my main volume out is set to -12db which keeps the signal received in my daw at a nice safe level. I am using the main outputs into my interfaces at 16bit/48k. I have the monitor cab off setting checked (seriously a double negative name????) for my main output I use Master Stereo.
So you people that obviously figured out the magic sauce, could I beg you for pointers on why I can't get a good sound like you guys do?
I appreciate any suggestions,
Ron
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How do we switch cabs? Also on Mac Load Impulse Response option is greyed out.
But this editor is top notch!!!!!
Thank you Kemper
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