That doesn't answer my question.
I was asking as a serious question. To compare the kemper which has a over a decade of profiling versus tonex and nam which are cheaper and free buy respectively but only out for a few years.
Your answer makes it look like you're just stating an opinion rather than actual data. And sounds fan boyish
To stop the arrogant fan boi arguments I'll end this thread here.
Kemper and NDSP public libraries both have thousands of captures and I would guess are about the same size. Both are dwarfed by the number of NAM and Tonex captures of course.
How many nam and tonex captures are there ?
The kemper rig manager library is 21000, but that's less than an 1/5 of the available profiles
I’ll be getting one of these to keep on my desk beside my Player.
Bamboo Ipad stands from Ikea. Very handy.
Regarding the number of available profiles....... Kemper profiles are so numerous its not a fair comparison 
I think... [TLDR - the unit is pretty darn good]
The number of footswitches is fine as long as you don't need 'stompbox' mode with more than 4 stomps. (I don't). Its simple to page through banks/presets and scenes with the 4 switches, left/right pair, and hold function with your foot (being able to modify the hold time is very cool). It is a bit awkward doing this with your hands though. The touch interface is very good, very intuitive, the FS/encoders are very good for editing too.
I do most editing on PC - the Cortex control software is ok its on par with Kempers and Helix editors.
Soundwise - its excellent. Just like the Kemper and Helix are. Am i going to back to back compare profiles and models......... eh no. Life is too short.
I/O - I had a long think about this - with a few 'Y' cables, a pair of xlr cables, and a jack/DIN midi cable - I could definitely replace my helix (which is almost fully populated on the rear) and Kemper - freeing up 6u of rack space. Which I find to be almost ludicrous for a unit this small. If I had a dedicated midi pedalboard- I'd do this - but the Helix control/Boss FV500/midi splitter combo is too good !
There is a whole bunch of negativity on Farcebuuk towards it. Regarding the price and 'why do you buy a device then buy a midi controller... buy the full QC'. The trolling always seems to assume that a dude buying a thing has no other gear, and must conform strictly to some unwritten price rule on what they must purchase.
I'm fairly sure the price has been very carefully arrived at (£1100) - I doubt its much cheaper to build the same device in a smaller box - especially considering the development costs. Its a full on QC multi FX profiler (£1450) (the equivalent of a Helix (£1000)/Kemper profiler (Mk2 at £1000)) with good i/o but is just a bit bigger than a Helix Stomp. Its comparable in price to the FM3 (£1100 with a free T shirt). Or the iphone that the trolling is done on.
Personal opinions are fine, but I remember why I rarely go to FB now.
I've tried all of the plugins - they are excellent (the demos are still on my laptop). The Morgan amp one is my fave.
Don't know how they appear on the qc - the one you can use are listed in the profiles section of the device (with 'licence not found' after their entry.
At a guess - you get the 3x amps, pedals and presets inside the device. The QC isn't an amp - its a small computer with ADA and an audio interface. So if you play out through the same monitoring as your pc - they should be the same (like the Helix and Helix Native). But we'd need an A/B to check.
I'm debating the location Desk - on an ikea bamboo book / ipad stand -or cabling it into the rack and having it on a shelf. I like things to be permanently cabled in the rack - zero wear and tear, and protected from dust and fingers.
The power supply isn't very confidence inspiring. BUT it only need 1.2A at 12 volts. So its easily replaced. It won't run from my MXRCAE rack pedal power supply though. 
That second picture looked like a radio console for a car. Caught me off guard.
I thought it was one of those uber midi controllers at first.
Me too. I'm not a 'If I have this then I have to sell that' person. As long as a device works well - it can stay.
I can see that having very few physical switches might be an issue if you did alot of preset programming - but the touchscreen and pc editor are very good indeed.
The recent updates look like they've improved the device with new models, and and improved cloud based profiling alternative. Although I don't make lot of profiles, I like the idea that its not pc based (looking at you Tonex/NAM) tying up my computer.
So. Been thinking about buying a Helix Stadium for a while and how I'll integrate it into my rig or my rig into it......
This came as a surprise.
Its very good (modern gear is very good), simple to use, and its tiny considering that its the full QC minus the footswitches (for 75% of the price, and cheaper than a used one in the UK - your taxes and pricing may be different).
The size is perfect for using on a desk, on the floor its easier to use the footswitches properly (bank up/bank down uses left and right pairs), the scenes function works instantly (like Line6 snapshots). However I don't need the footswitches, I have a full on midi control setup with footswitches and exp pedals, and use pc editors almost exclusively so this is perfect.
The i/o is good - midi in/out, usb, inputs, XLR outputs, 4 mono or 2 stereo loops, and capture i/o. I could in theory use this to run my rack instead of the Helix.
Would I ditch the Kemper (or the Helix) ? Nope - I have alot of profiles which I really like (the collection of rack preamp profile I got to stop me buying more rack preamps for instance), and use the Helix as an I/O hub and midi controller for the rest of my collection.
And the sounds - excellent so far. I have pedals, rack FX, Helix, Kemper, and plugins to compare it to. Its very good. YMMV.
I use a patchbay. Bear with me.
My Kemper's i/o - including the fx loop is connected to my racks patchbay - as are my rack FX and pedals. It takes literally (and figuratively) seconds to move patch cables to reconfigure where the FX are. So I put them where they sound good. Reverb delays - maybe after the kemper. Micropitch - maybe in the loop...... maybe not - takes seconds to move the patch cables to try a different setup.
NB - not having to reach around to the back of the rack to move cables to change a setup is soooooooooo good.
I'm getting ready to record a track. Turn on computer, DAW, and Kemper. Roll up the guitar volume knob and nothing. I kept checking my input and output settings then restarted the computer, DAW, and Kemper and still nothing. WTF?
Oh, I forgot to jack in the guitar.
been there, done that
You can plug it straight into your interface, or FOH, and you are good to go. No cabs or IR's are needed.
I have used a ADA Flanger and a TCE Vortex flanger in front for some killer sounds. I have used Eventide Micropitch, TCE Hall of Fame 2 delay, and numerous verbs behind it with awesome results. Setting it up in a stereo loop with Kemper with kemper effects in front and back have awesome results too. The only effect I haven't tried yet is a wah which is on my list to try.
I'm definitely going to get one
What kind of fx chain - infront and behind suits it ? Does it need an IR or cab ?
You can use the Player anyway you want. There are no rules.
Are you sure ?
Because 'dudes on the internet' will tell you the only way to use a piece of gear is the way they 'think' it should be used. At length.
[laughing smiley to denote tongue in cheek joke]
Half the price ? So 600 to 700 ? Buy it. Build a rig around it and enjoy an absolute bargain that sounds fantastic.
I'm never buying a Mk2 - I'm also probably never selling my Mk1 - I have lots of profiles and don't really care about enhanced profiling. And Kemper haven't said anything about stopping updates for the Mk1 - Sure it'll happen eventually - but it'll still work exactly the same as it does now when they do.
Thanks for your help. You mean I can have different morphs on different expression pedals? I thought there was only one morph available per rig.
Yep. one morph to rule them all.
You can have 4x expression pedals. wah, volume, pitch and morph. The (singular) morph can change multiple parameters simultaneously but its one morph
NB - For a time I kept an eye out for used exp pedals at my local shop - as having 3 (matching ones) is pretty cool.
The rig is simple these days:
Rigs with Van Halen stripes are 2-300x more cool then those without. Fact.
Welcome to my TED talk.
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The stadium has the capability of running 2x expression pedals..........the XL can run 4x expression pedals AND has a treadle making 5.
I know this is because of space limitations but man....... for the sake of including one more jack to let you use the same number of expression pedals*.
Same with the loops. Having 4x is cool. Lets you have loops dedicated to specific things and reduces the need to rejig** stuff.
* no one needs 4 or 5 expression pedals - BUT its really cool having one dedicated volume, one dedicated wah, and one spare for morphing/pitch/fading in a loop
** patchbays are the MVP
Well. I'm excited about it. Theres alot of pros and very few cons (the price)
Looking at the i/o - I definitely have to wait for the rack version - the Stadium doesn't have enough loops (it has 2).
For me - the skeumorphic interface is frippery - I like to see it but don't need it. Bluetooth and wifi control - nice to have (but again I don't need it). The improved processing /architecture/memory/new modelling engine (Agoura)... yes, I like, that and for a device to be around for another 10 years it'll need it. Being able to use existing Helix presets - apart from the cabs) - also nice..
Being able to split inputs/outputs and apply different eq - that's cool. The ability to have an audio track split into stems to play along with or control fx changes or external devices is cool. I use the SPDIF as a loop separate from the main output, and have different EQ depending on whether I'm using the TS and XLR outputs (they go to different devices).
The capture tech.... its a computer so being able have its own tech or use NAM - is something folks have been asking for and its there.
The only con for me is the price. To get the I/O I'd like, I'd need* the XL ($2200), and L6 charge more for the rack version.............if they make one (the rack followed months later after the OG launch). Its less than an AxeFx - its tantalisingly around the $$ of me selling my Helix and Kemper**.... although their value is set to go on the 'hey look at the new thing' value rollercoaster.
* ha ha, I play guitar at home, I don't 'need' anything.
** unlikely, I see my Kemper as an amp collection to stop me buying amps...... with varying degrees of success.
