The difference between the KP 1 and the regular Mission pedal is - one is green and the other isn’t. There’s nothing magical about the Kemper version so its not a midi pedal issue. (..)
Mission Engineering disagrees ....
This is from a convo I had with them way back, where I had asked them if one of the Aero models would work with the Kemper.
So, I finally got my "travel-board" working with an M-VAVE Chocolate, a Retrovision display, and an expression pedal with footswitch (wah/volume). I'm using the Mission KP pedal I originally bought for my Kemper Rack and while the volume works fine, I'm not liking the "sweep" on the wah. It feels like all the wah movement is in the top 20% of the pedal and almost nothing happening on the rest (I hope that makes sense).
I read somewhere that the Mission KP was specifically designed for the Kemper, so I guess using it as a Midi pedal is not optimal.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a midi expression pedal with a toe switch for the KPP?
Thx in advance!
Hey, did you ever get this solved? I just got a Chocolate plus and everything is working, except for the expression pedal. I tried the same things you did (Wah and Volume), but it doesn't appear that the Chocolate is sending any midi (KPP Midi In is set to Omni).
Thx in advance!
The Kemper is primarily optimized for playing guitar. Its strength lies in tone and feel, not unnecessary technical gimmicks. It connects well with computers, routers, and MIDI devices, but if you want more technology, features, or extras, you can simply choose something else. For those who value what matters most: great tone and playing feel, the Kemper is the perfect device. Nobody needs to stick with Kemper if they’re not happy with it.
ahh .... the age old tried-and-(not)true love it or leave it argument.
Not the point of this thread, methinks ...
I kind of agree with this but at the same time I recall every time I tried to run stereo at an actual gig it didn't go nearly as well as I'd hoped. Would it be nice? Yeah. Should they do it? Well it would probably increase the cost, the weight, and maybe some other factors like needing a bigger box to put it in. At the end of the day if you really want to run stereo you get one Kemper powered cab and one passive. Or other brand of FRFR one powered one not. Run main left to monitor and main right to direct out. Bob's your uncle. More complicated yes but there is a solution. Or you can do what I will and take a stereo rack mounted power amp. A Kemper rack, a power switch, and an amp will fit in a 6U.
That's what I do (monitor + direct out into a Marshall Valvestate).
Obviously, YMMV on stereo setups, but I prefer "real" guitar speakers in stereo on stage (I've tried and don't like FRFRs).
Also, I don't think it would've added too much, neither cost nor weight. British Audio has offered a stereo mod for the powered Kempers for quite some time - don't think it would've been too difficult to do the same. For the unpowered, there's already two pairs of Main Outs (balanced and unbalanced). Having the ability to "de-couple" those and control cab sim independently appears to me to be very low hanging fruit.
Personally, I find it rather disappointing that the monitor out (speaker out on powered) on the Mk2 units is still mono. I run stereo to FoH and also to a pair of 4x10s (my personal monitor) using the Monitor/Direct out combo, but that obviously sacrifices the fx loop capabilities.
It seems to me that a couple of the "other guys" are ahead in this respect.
I'm not planning on switching, my current setup works just too well for me (Rack+Remote+2 Exp), but I'm also going to hold off on getting a Mk2 until there's a more compelling argument. I also have a "travel-board" with a Lvl III Player, so I can test all the Mk2 stuff on there.
All valid, and thx for the help/suggestions/pointers.
I'll may have to go down that route. It's just that the XLR to XLR adapter is the cleanest. FoH or stage boxes are pretty much always XLR and regardless of where you play, the sound guy is probably going to have a large supply of mic cables.
Asking a sound guy at a gig for "exotic" cables like (long) TS female to TS male or TS female to unbalanced XLR will almost certainly get you weird looks and a "sorry, bra" answer.
Or I'll just have to bite the bullet and make it myself ....
Confusing to me as I assume XLR means balanced (which is not strictly true, but mostly true in practice).
Usually implied, yes. But I'm just referring to the connectors (ref: Cordial EY 0,3 FMM elements – Thomann International )
From what I read, this cable does not work. It splits a mono signal into two mono signals.
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Also, I'd prefer XLR to XLR
Hey All,
does anyone have a link/source for an XLR Stereo adaptor for the Player in the US? Thomann is in Germany and the f#$%ing tariffs are creating a bit of a problem....
Thx in advance!
M.
What kind of speaker system are you using with that power amp? Maybe a better question is can that amp provide adequate power for the unpowered Kemper Kone to play in a moderately loud rock/jazz/folk setting?
Hey, sorry for the late answer. Haven't been on this site in a while.
To answer your question, when playing in my area I use a pair of Marshall 4x10s. I was traveling the other day and used someone's 4x12 (frogot what the brand was) that was split r/l stereo.
Both are plenty loud - at least for my purposes.
Cordial EY 0,3 FMM elements – Thomann
If you're lookig for jacks: Cordial EM 0,5 FV elements – Thomann + pro snake TPY 2003 BPP – Thomann
You sure this works? The pins on the female plug are labeled/identified differently than in Burkhard's diagram. I.e. ground is on a different pin ....
Is Kemper not at NAMM this year? Can't find them in the exhibitor list.
TIA - M.
Travel-board finished, powered by CIOKS SOL (except for the power amp, of course).
I have a Dunlop Mini, which I'll prob take instead of the Mission.
I think you misunderstood my comment. I don't own a Voodoo lab PSU, but the pics in the link you posted show two X-Link ports labeled at 12V/1A. Which is why I asked, are you using only one port (which would be 12W total power) or two in parallel (which would then result in 22W total power)?
The CIOKS SOL is not 9V/660mA in total, it's 9V/660mA per port (30W total, or 3.3A max at 9V).
Voodoo Labs PP3 or PP3 Plus, using the X-Link output for KPP. Works perfectly
Interesting. One port or both? One port would be "only" 12W, which is roughly half of what the Player PSU does (22W).
That would also mean that two ports on the CIOKS SOL should suffice .... 
The player pulls more amps than a single port on the SOL can provide. So, you need to combine two or more ports in (what's called) parallel.
From what I can tell on the CIOKS website, the parallel cables are not provided out of the box with the SOL. You need to get either one or three of these: CIOKS 8800 Flex Parallel Adapter | Sweetwater
I do not know if you need one or three (that's my question in my previous post). One post in this thread suggests that two ports may be enough (~1320mA at 9V). but the player may require four ports (three parallel cables = 2640mA) to work reliably.
Set the dip switches to the 9V-660mA setting, and then try one of the two following:
1. plug one parallel cable into ports one and two; plug a black cable into that and into the Player - check if it powers on and remains stable during playing
2. plug one parallel cable into ports one and two; plug one parallel cable into ports three and four, plug one parallel cable into the previous two parallel cables; plug a black cable into that and into the Player
#2 should definitely work, question is if two ports are sufficient.
Some more advice: if you don't feel comfortable with connecting electronic devices, find someone who can help you out with it. Making a mistake could potentially overpower and/or damage the Player.
So, has anyone actually tried using two or more ("regular") ports on a CIOKS PSU? Did it work?
Thx in advance!
M.
Hey all,
just got my new KPP today. On the back of the unit it shows 9-12V / 24W (!). That's 2 Amps peak at 12V (2.6 Amps at 9V). The included power supply is spec'd at 9V / 22.5W so that matches.
Is the KPP really that power hungry? I don't know of any pedalboard power supply that will do more than 500mA on any voltage.
How are you guys powering your KPPs on your boards?
Thx in advance!
No, not stuck on it. Just seemed like a good solution. Price, form factor, and the reviews using it with a Kemper.
Also just found an added benefit (think English accent:) it goes to eleven !!! 
