Posts by Ibot39

Quote from nwmusic32

I listened to how the gain structure changed based on his playing. Maybe my profiles aren't great, but mine don't react that well. I'm not saying MK1 has no dynamic response, but what I saw in the video seemed better than what I have now.

This is one of those things that clips and videos aren't going to do it justice. We need the profiling release and try for ourselves to judge.

Thomas Dill not only knows how to play, but he also knows how to dial in a great tone with Kemper! I have learned much from his videos!
He is also very honest. There are several videos where he could not completely match the tones of his real drive pedals with Kemper. They always sounded different (and better). But this is another story...

Is it the nice tweaking that you hear or really the new profiling 2.0? Because in the other video with the untweaked profile the dynamic response seems not as good. Or what do you think?

Have you tried playing around with Bright Cap Intensity on Mk1 yet? I have an unresolved thread where I have problems with Liquid profiling and low gain. I experienced in this context that reducing Bright Cap did compensate for a too spikey tone and the feel and respond on neck pickup was way better too. But it was not nailing the exact accurate amp tone anymore.

I accepted that the actual Kemper Mk I profiling sometimes sounds spot on. Sometimes close enough. Sometimes (with tweaking) different but alse very good.
That's what several sellers with pro studio gear comfirmed to me. They are waiting for Profiling 2.0 saying that atm other companies have more consistancy for accurate results - less try and error and tweaking. So I am hoping that Profiling 2.0 will be great and even better than what we have.
Maybe the expectations are too big?

Quote from JAC

I hear hiss in both quiet parts, with the hiss in the second quiet part being more pronounced. To me, the profiled version sounds like it has just a touch more treble and volume, which is understandable, given that it's not exactly the same input signal being pushed through each. I'm looking forward to getting hold of the new hardware.

But it only sounds more spikey (you say more treble) in the quiet parts, so it reacts different to the softer picking! Or am I wrong??
With palm mutes it is the opposite and the profile is flatter and does not cut as the amp.
I think in the dynamics video with softer picking AND gain reduced in liquid profile, the tone got even more spikey. That is why the artist liked it better with manually adjusting bright cap down to compensate?!
Not a problem or too bad sounding. Cool that you can tweak it. But the short is called: Profiling 2.0 - Dynamcis! That is confusing when people expect a demonstration of better profiling 2.0 imo.

Quote from G String

flyingheelhook

This is the original recording for the second video (the plexi comparison). The file is a WAV 48k/24bit

Thanks for this! Again I love my Kemper for what it does and hope 2.0 gets even better.
But do you really think the amp profiling here completely nailed the reference amp tone??
For example just listen and focus to the lower frequencies?! You can CLEARLY hear the difference.

And with the other video: I think the confusion is, that people expect examples and proof of the new superior 2.0 profiling and not possibilities to tweak a great tone with nice dynamics. That is already possible with Mk1.

Of course, it’s far too early to draw any final conclusions. But why doesn’t Kemper release a professional, convincing comparison video?

Honestly: please listen carefully, one after another, to the palm mutes, then focus on how the real amp cuts or compare the presence and pay attention to the dynamics during soft picking. The amp sounds different (for me better) in every aspect. This is not a good video to represent the new profiling.

Quote from nwmusic32

Watching this specific video a few times, I'm excited for the increased dynamic response. This has been the missing puzzle piece for me. Tones and profiles have been great since MK1, but the improved response should drive it home.

How can you hear improved dynamic response in this specific video? We have to test how the old MK1 profiles compares with the same tweakings that are done here to find a sweet spot. In the other 2.0 comparison video the dynamic is not better imo.

First: I love my Kemper Profiler!
Video 1: I can clearly hear a difference between profile and reference amp. I know that playing position and other things can make a big difference. But it still seems that the profiling here was not spot on. Results seem not closer to real amp than what Mk1 has done in the past. That is the impression I got with the video. With volume pot on guitar reduced or with softer picking it sounds even less dynamic and good for me. I wish I could hear it different.

Video 2: It's not dialing in one of the amplifier's sweet-spot as you write, when using Bright cab value! It is maybe the profile's sweet spot.
I have no problem when Gain and EQ is changed in the Liquid Profile here - it should be like turning knobs on the amp. But problem is, that it does not work very good! Profile now sounds and reacts different and not as good than the amp would do (see video 1). It seems that has not changed with 2.0. A second profile with lower gain would give better results I guess. But when you have to manually adjust Bright Cab value to compensate to get the "sweet spot", that is tweaking around and not showing superior profiling or improved dynamic imo.

Quote from tamagotchi666

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But that’s an interesting question: does the new profiling set Bright Cap Intensity automatically?

When thinking more about it, it seems not possible.

Quote from tamagotchi666

What exactly do you mean by dynamics when you watch or listen to such a video?

In the comparison video the profile reacts noticeabley different to soft playing than the amp does?!
Of course yet I can only judge what we are hearing not the feel!!
Why was Bright Cap reduced in the second video if not to manuelly compensate for more dynamic? Just want to understand myself.

In the second dynamics video, Bright Cap Intensity was reduced to 3
So the profile here sounds more compressed and flatter than the reference amp at full gain, and less dynamic and more spiky at lower gain and input. Manually adjusting Bright Cap Intensity compensates for this, but this shows tweakability rather than a true dynamic comparison?
Or does the new profiling set Bright Cap Intensity automatically?

Yes, we need a looped audio comparison. Yes, there is utube compression. However, I’ve definitely heard results from the old MKI profiling that were noticeably closer than this The profile here sounds flatter, compressed, with less presence and dynamics - especially considering that this is supposed to demonstrate an improvement in dynamics. For an initial short demo, one would expect a better example.

In the past, I have modded some of my combo amps so that I can use them with the built-in speaker as an external cab. Using Kemper with a Hotone Loudster neutral power amp in my case. So maybe the Kemper through the Fender BDLx combo could be a solution?

OK folks, I think that’s it again for my attempt to use Liquid Profiles To achieve better results, not only I'd have to profile each channel, but ideally each channel at multiple gain settings. Even then, I still have to fine-tune Definition and other parameters as soon as I turn the gain knob too far. That’s also why some vendors offer packs with 30 Liquid Profiles of a simple JCM800 with one cab (I can not mention vendors, otherwise the thread gets moved). I also have other packs with only one Liquid Profile, but that has the same problem as written above: There is no low input channel sound available.

So thhis really doesn’t provide any benefit for me.

And once you get into amps with jumped channels, it’s basically over anyway. There’s still no answer from the Kemper team on this topic:

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Liquid profiles for channel jumped amps?

So, I have created some very nice liquid profiles for various amps that I own and have been very pleased with the results.


Now I want to profile by Marshall SV20 with liquid profiling.

The problem is: on its own, the high treble channel is thin, harsh and trebly and the normal channel is a muddy mess. Jumpered the amp sounds just great clean to full on. My question is how I should go about creating a liquid profile for the amp? Jumped tone stacks do not seem to be an option. Or is all the magic…

Frank67

October 3, 2024 at 5:38 PM

Tested again. Liquid profiles of low input with the Kemper tone stack just is not authentic sounding as soon as knobs are turned. Also tried with commercial profiles where I know the settings to make liquid profiles. Same result.

So it seems not possible to get the warmer clean tone from THE standard amp head with Liquid Profiling of the low input. So what is the purpose?

So far, I haven’t really used Liquid Profiles, because I don’t fully get the real benefit. The feature doesn’t feel completely finished to me, and there are way too few tone stacks available.

But today I spent some more time working with it... and again I’ve reached a point where I’m stuck.
I’m trying to create Liquid Profiles of a classic Marshall JCM800. This works perfectly fine for the High Input.

However, I’m struggling to capture the warmer clean sound of the Low Input (which is not only less sensitive but bypasses a gain stage?) With a single Liquid Profile, this doesn’t seem to be possible in a convincing way. So I created a separate profile using the Low Input - but the Mars CM 800 tonestack doesn’t behave like the original amp in this case. Turning gain down results in a brighter sound than the real amps low input.

Of course, I can experiment with different settings for Definition and Bright Cab to get closer to the original sound. But that raises the question for me: is this really the idea behind Liquid Profiling? That with every small adjustment of the gain knob, I also have to tweak Definition and Bright Cab?

Am I missing something here? Using other Tonestacks didn't work. Setting a fixed Bright Cab value also doesn't work. What approach does Kemper intend for getting Liquid profiles of the Low Input? Any tips?

At the moment, it seems more practical to me to work with several different profiles and fine-tune them once. That approach feels simpler, more intuitive, and ultimately closer to both the original amp and the desired sound.

Sorry for posting the same Ibanez AZ Standard again, but I wanted to share a short summary after three months of heavy (ab)use. This guitar is incredibly versatile, and I absolutely love it. It has already taken quite a beating, too. At one point I hit the neck so hard that a roughly 1 cm chunk of the fretboard near the first fret got damaged. I filled the missing piece with wood from a garden chair (my wife was thrilled when she noticed 😀). The first fret had to be replaced with a new stainless-steel one.

After three months of intense playing, the (other 😉) frets show no wear at all, the poly finish holds up great, and best of all: the roasted maple neck! I’ve never had a guitar that stays in tune like this one. Despite weather changes, the neck and action haven’t shifted even a bit. It’s my first guitar with a roasted maple neck — I would never have believed it! Or did I just get lucky?

The stock pickups impressed me from day one. I still won’t be swapping them out. They’re fairly neutral, modern, but still punchy and very usable. Similar in versatility to the Hyperions, but with a bit more character.

To stay within the “non-complaining thread,” I came up with a little workaround What about a real pedal stacked with a Kemper pedal?

In this case, I’m testing my new Way Huge Doom Hammer Fuzz into the Kemper Green Scream (also using the clean mix knob). A Muff-style fuzz into a TS works great with clean high-headroom pedal platform amps. Here, I’m using a profile of a PRS Archon 50 clean channel.

Sorry for the sloppy test recording - the guitar isn’t down-tuned (actually, it’s not really tuned at all ). For bass tones, I just pitch the guitar down an octave. And the most simple riff I made up on the fly...

First off: The amp looks awesome and it seems you were genuinely excited about the results you got profiling it.
But… (and please don’t take this the wrong way) … I think there might be a reason why no one has commented or liked it yet.

In another thread, you mentioned that you hate all the other profiles on RE, but that your profiles sound real and open - just like playing the actual amp. In the now-edited post above, your tone also came across a bit rude. You even said your profiles sound better than the famous Morgan AC20 profile in another thread. So naturally, I was really curious and thought, wow, maybe this guy has found something special!

But after trying the profiles myself, I have to admit I’m completely puzzled

Could you share how you’re listening to your profiles? Maybe that could explain the difference?
Because on my studio monitors, they honestly sound pretty bad. To be totally honest, they sound worse than a tiny Pignose transistor amp recorded with a broken headset mic. I don’t mean that disrespectfully - just describing what I’m hearing.

So I’m wondering if something’s off with your monitoring setup, or if maybe there was a technical issue during profiling. Otherwise, I’m totally lost - or maybe you’re just pulling our leg here