Any E.T.A on the official Kemper MK2 V2 Liquid Profiling Packs ?
Posts by benifin
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I think this ties in very much with OS 14 Experiences.
I've heard how MK 2 2.0 sounds ... but I cant seem to find anyone - of any skill or reputations - who has done an A/B comparison of a MK2 2.0 Profile and A/B compared it to the real Amp it is capturing to demonstrate how accurate or not accurate it is MK2 2.0 is (?)
Anyone got any good links ?
Thanks
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Now 2.0 is Full Non-Beta Public Released ... I *thought* at the same time as the Public Non-Beta FW Release we would be getting a few official 2.0 Packs like we did with the Liquid Profiling Release (?)
Not happening ?
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Hey Michael !
I figure you've had 2.0 for a while now (?)
=> any Liquid Profile 2.0 P packs on the way soon-ish (?)
All the best.
Ben
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Can we get any confirmed official information about the V2 IR / Cab Block changes, if any ?
=> I am doing a MK2 Player V2 DI Profile and I then add a high quality IR in the Cab Block
=> is the added IR processed and played-back at a higher quality and resolution in MK2 V2 compared to MK1 V1 ?
=> what if anything has changed in this regard ?
Thx,
Ben
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Remember this is the first public beta so I wouldn’t rule out further tone stack development in future. We will just have to wait and see what happens.
I do get where you are coming from but this really reminds of the "Kemper Speaker Prints".
To the best of my memory, there was the initial release with talk that more would be added over time, and I think (?) none ever have been.
Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong ?
Same was said in Aug 2023 with the addition of the Liquid Profiling Tone Stacks .... again ... to the best of my knowledge ... no more new ones have so far ever been added
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Nope, still the same. Don't be greedy
Hmmm ... that's disappointing
And also the IR Block seems (?) also to not have been improved (?)I honestly thought both these 2 "parts" would have been added to / improved as part of the whole Profiling overhaul
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With OS 14 and V2 Profiling and a MK2 Hardware unit
=> has the number of Kemper "Tone Stacks" [ ie: the Amp Specific Gain and EQ Models for Liquid Profiling ] been added to ?
=> if so, is there a list of them as of os14 V2 ?
Thx.
Ben
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Two very quick questions re: 2.0 and the MK2 Hardware
(1) if you are making and then loading a D.I only profile and you add you own IR, is there any Cabinet Resonance and Cabinet Integrity control available for the IR ?
(2) in 2.0 has the Cab Block been improved to take longer and higher resolution IR's ?
Thx
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When Liquid Profiling was released, Kemper provided 3 x FREE Pro-made Liquid Profile Packs for d/l.
I may not have seen it, but is there already (?) or are we going to very soon get (?) Free Kemper Packs of Pro-made V2 Profiles (?)
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An admin already told here "Please avoid judging the sound quality or similarity based on YouTube audio alone."
Honestly I think he's right...
Let's wait to start judging...probably they're waiting this thread to reach 100th page to release it. 🤭
You'll be able to judge and make decisions soon, if it's worth to keep it up with kemper or go somewhere else. As far as I learned, Kemper people are not too worried with those null tests and I really think it doesn't matter anymore.
Liquid profiles plus all de parameters you can edit with kemper, makes it incomparable with any other device, don't really think Kemper needs to win the null test race.
I think you missed my point. It is nothing at all to do with Null tests or A/B comparisons or anything like that.
In the video's I am referring to it is purely comparing a V2 profile to the Real Amp it is Profiling - and in both cses the V2 Profile is audibly under-gained relative the to real Amp.
If this is consistent - Im hoping it can be addressed in the final Release.
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On this demo and the demo he did with MBritt and the Ola V2 Profile demo ..... the Profiles are pretty much excellent however its clear to my ears that the Profile is ever so slightly under-gained compared to the real Amp.
If this is a consistent "thing" ...... hopefully this is an easy fix before going Public Release
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Michael Britt’s Instagram story is teasing a video with Tone Junkie with a mk2 remote. Have to imagine we’re getting close and they’re planning a big 2.0 release video
For those of us not on Instagram, can you elaborate or copy/paste the info ?
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Definitely a very good sounding demo - hopefully more to come soon.
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I know I'm breaching my Mk2 Beta Test NDA .... but this has gone on too long and I'm just going to say it ..... Sam Altman and Elon Musk are both on the Mk2 Private Beta Test Team.
There ... I said it !!
Remember. You heard it here first !
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That assumption is not supported by the available facts. Without insight into our internal work, it’s not possible to accurately characterize how or why this was implemented.
For that reason, describing the limitation as a deliberate decision is not an accurate representation.
Fair point
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So linking in to my previous post how Kemper steadily progresses without constantly finding ways to make their customers part with more money, or massively devaluing their existing gear, a certain company has just gone the plug in route. It must be exhausting buying in to that kind of marketing.
I'm hoping the version 2 profiles will be backward compatible so we join in the fun if we have version 1 even if we can't make the profiles.
The new profiles will be backward compatible, but at a lower resolution. What that means will be known soon.
Given that from what I can tell there is a very high level of DSP / Processing Power "equality" between Legacy V1 Hardware and V2 Hardware, my guess is that whilst we know V2 will run on V1 at a lower resolution ... that lower resolution will be "implemented by decision" as my guess is there is no technical reason that the V1 Hardware could not run the V2 Profiles at full resolution.
This of course is just pure supposition on my part and only a guess of which I could very well be %1000 wrong
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Guys, there's an almost zero risk that MK2 will be only a subtle, incremental improvement unless my entire experience in life is wrong.
Agreed. Given the huge claims made and the [extra long unexpected] amount of time it is taking, if V2 were anything less than a clear audible and feel improvement, I think it would be a huge let down for many people ... just my opinion of course
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Predictions are difficult, especially about the future. I predict there will be hyper scrutiny about the exact degree of MKII profile precision. Some minor audible differences will exist. Many will lose sleep, some will be irreconcilably heart broken. Kemper will add mind-blowing new parameters to the already unmatched toolset making the actual playing experience unbeatable in the world of capture tech. Many will miss out on the best sounding and most enjoyable playing experience ever. I will be sad for them.
Hey AaronJ16 - I hear what you are saying and I have no idea what KPA are doing with V 2.0, or how it will sound relative to existing Legacy V1 Profiles but if its "minor audible differences" ... I would respectfully say that would be a massive let down..
CK and the whole team already know exactly how "pretty much perfectly" things like Tonex V2, NAM, QC V2 and even Stadium Proxy due for release in a few weeks [ its AI / ML Based ] sound relative to the "real" amps being "copied" so it would be inconceivable to me that Kemper would release a V2 that results in only a "minor audible difference" over Legacy V1.
I don't often say this, but for everyone involved including Kemper and all current and future KPA buyers and users, I sincerely hope you are wrong and I am right - no disrespect or offence meant or intended.
Fingers crossed
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Today's episode was interesting, EQ is IMHO "THE" thing that makes a profile sound better.
But let's address the elephant in the room, it's the second time they state that we'll have, at least an update, in the next T&T episode and it's the second time they don't deliver...
I mean, I don't get it... why say that and leave people in the dark ?
After 20 years in sales and marketing I've learned that a customer can understand lots of things, being left unanswered is not one of them.
Rule number (1) of developing a "new" product or feature .... under-promise and over deliver
