Posts by Jemjulio

    Paint Audio MIDI Captain Nano is also fairly cheap and has a display that shows you the name of the Rig and the status of the fx. Plus it gets power and midi directly from the USB of the Player

    Nice. Its about twice the price, but yes, its fairly cheap. The display is a very cool feature though. The Chocolate also gets its power from the KPP.

    Damn it. Now I want one.

    Damn. Shipping is nearly as much as the item. Total $ 137

    Total for the Chocolate with free shipping $30

    Moving on....:)

    Adding a small and cheap Mvave Chocolate Plus midi controller will give you everything you need.

    You could have your 3 rigs on the Player switches, and use the 4 on the Chocolate to assign effects and the morph. Plus you would still have another 4 functions with the hold ( Tuner, freeze etc)

    You wouldn't need the combo switches so you can avoid the lag thing mentioned by "quemper"

    And a expression pedal is a nice bonus.

    Not sure I want to go down that rabbit hole, to be honest. I can always use the soundcard. Plus its more a curiosity thing than anything else. I prefer the sound/feel of the Kemper anyway.

    I cant imagine using the KPP to audition Neural DSP plugins is high on their priority list.

    If they haven't chimed in here.....

    I was looking for other users experience, looking for the mistake I was sure I had to be making.

    Maybe when they sort out the ASIO bug, my issue gets resolved. :)

    Thanks again for your input.

    Thanks.

    Aside from learning I'm getting too old for technology, If I did it correctly, I'm getting a latency of 120ms.

    Audio buffer size of 128 samples in the plugin. Microphone connected to soundcard, DAW using soundcard as audio device ( buffer 64) . Microphone about 1 m from the speakers

    Also I have to unselect Direct monitor in the Output settings in Rig manager to be able to bypass the rig. But when I close the plugin ( Both cant be open, as we know) and open Rig Manager its selected again. No idea if this is normal.

    As I said , too old for this. I shouldn't even bother :P

    Not sure how I would be able to measure it.

    I understand "awful" isn't an accurate term :)

    Unusable and very uncomfortable come to mind. I'm not talking something subtle. Its VERY wrong. Nowhere near the results I get with the soundcard, hence the assumption I'm doing something wrong.

    If there is a method to measure it, I'm all ears. :saint:

    I do appreciate the assistance.<3

    Do you mean you're just using the Player as an audio interface to play the plugin and monitoring through the computer? You should be able to get latency under 10 ms doing that. You don't say what latency you're getting, but use a smaller buffer size if you want it lower.

    However, no multifx processor will ever have latency as low as a dedicated audio interface for the simple reason that it's doing more processing.

    That would be the scenario, yes. I reduce the buffer as much as it lets me before it starts squealing and crashing. I think 128 works well with the sound card.

    I think you already know this, but that absurd latency only occurs when using the native driver. For that reason, the native driver should never be used. Use class compliant instead and the latency will be reasonable.

    I have no idea what's wrong with the native driver, but it serves no purpose anyway. Kemper should remove it.

    This might be it then. I am using the Native Audio (Asio) as the plugin wont allow the use of the Class Compliant USB audio.

    What exactly do you mean by "play along with the plugin"?

    In this Standalone scenario we aren't recording. Just playing with the plugin on the PC connected via the Players USB.

    But if we were to record on a DAW and I want to monitor the plugin sound while I record, instead of the KPP's profile, I'm not able to do that.

    As I said, if I record the KPP profile and then apply the plugin to the D.I, its not a problem.

    Its not a huge deal. I can always plug into the soundcard if I just want to audition a plugin, while actually playing guitar. I'm was just surprised this is the case.

    I admit I must be doing something wrong, but I just cant work out what it is.

    So, if I want to record in reaper using the KPP as my audio device (USB) all is good. I record the master on one track and the D.I on another. I monitor the master signal while I play. And then I can apply a plugin to the D.I if I want to. All is good.

    However I cant play along with the plugin.

    I select in the output section a pair of USB channels as D.I and the other as Master stereo

    I open Neural DSP Cory Wong plugin ( in Standalone mode), select Asio/ Profiler and the appropriate USB channels and it works, as in the KPP profile selected does not interfere with the plugin sound. So, I know the routing is correct ( it took me a while to work that out)

    But the latency makes it unplayable. It doesn't matter how much I try to lower it. Its just awful.

    At this point I would think that's just the way it is, BUT, I have an old cheap soundcard ( Steinberg UR22) and when I plug into that ( same buffer size) the plugin works flawlessly. No perceived latency.

    I've had the soundcard for years, so I would think its technology isn't that great.

    So what am I doing wrong?

    Another thing that has me confused is the fact that you can alter the milliseconds value in the input and output latency in the Kemper control panel of the plugin. As far as I was aware these values are determined by the buffer size. Doesn't seem to help either.


    I appreciate the help

    I'm ok because I can disconnect the tuner sending the zero value another way. I've given up on the other way that used to work, but probably makes no sense that it did as I was sending 1 followed by 0 at the same time. :)

    What does confuse me though, the tuner works different to the freeze option.

    If I send the 1 value to Freeze( CC35), it engages. If I send it again (value 1) it disengages.

    However the same doesn't apply to the tuner. Second value 1 wont disengage it.

    I imagine that in this case the strange thing is what is happening with the freeze rather than the tuner.

    I checked with Midi-OX and that is what is being sent in both cases ( values 1 and 1)

    I tested a Player with OS 14 here. CC#31 works reliably as before.

    Thanks.

    After trying everything just now ( trying different usb cable, different footswitch, confirming all other commands are working) I managed to fix it.

    My setup was long press: 31-1 and 31-0, so that that the first long press activated it and the second long press deactivated.

    This was footswitch A. Switches B, C and D (short press) apart from selecting slots also had the command 31- 0 to deactivate the tuner.

    I have now added that command (31-0) to footswitch A and its all good.

    31-1 on the long press works, but the moment I add the 31-0 it doesn't work anymore, where as it did before.

    This setup is actually better, so no problem, but something seems to have changed.


    Thanks again

    I would like to explain an example of the behaviour I'm getting.

    Today I fire up the Player and RM.

    I go to Rig exchange and double click on a profile. It loads .I listen. all good.

    Now I go to the My Profiler rigs list and double click on Rig 1-1

    And immediately Rig 1-3 ( ??) changes name ( possibly to the one I auditioned on Rig Exchange). I click on it and reverts to original name.

    I tried to do it a second time and it worked as it should.