Posts by Nacht

So yesterday i tested all of them. I tested 2x12 with a powerball as poweramp and than the monitors. The Solton first... it was ok MUCH better then my behringer MUCH better. Thought this would be a good alternative. Then came the Yamaha and it blew me away. even better then the 2x12 Guitarboxes. It was just perfect so detailed and yeah ... great :D. The shopman told me to try a new box from thoman (the box pyrit) which should be very good and much has a much flatter eq curve then the yamaha

http://www.thomann.de/de/the_box_pyrit_12a.htm

it didnt sounded that great as the yamaha (great anyway) but he told me since i have to setup mainly a sound for the PA and this thing is mainly for me it would be the much better joice zu take the pyrit because of the flat response. And yeah i think hes right. Didnt buy one yesterday because i dont know if i can live with a monitorbox on stage... it just dont look like rock/metal ... and .. yeah the optical thing is very important for me two ... a fullrange in a 2x12 box would be perfect ... but there is none right (except the atomic)?

Oh yeah all of those boxes wasnt too loud dont know if we need some bigger ones ?

Thank you

Hey guys,

sry im sure there is a thread but cant find it via the search function

how can i sen a cab off signal to a poweramp + cab and send a signal with Cab to the PA? i once read that this is possible. ( on the kemper main site i guess)

Any Alternatives?

yes in a few weeks we will test a few thing at thomann will check that yamaha box absolutly out

Thank you

Hello,

today i played the kemper with my behringer FR monitor box and the sound was awful. It just cutted my ears of. Im considering to buy a cheap (bugera etc) amp and use it as poweramp + a nice box but i dont think this is the answer cause in that way i save no weight at all by using the kemper. So is there any FRFR box out there which sounds good for high gain sounds under 500€ ? I made a new thread because the clean sounds sounded ok. Im just seeking for a box that sounds good with highgain sounds.

anybody knows which cabinet this is?

in the cab sections there stands marshall 1987x ... but i cant find this cab? Which speakers are in this one?

Maybe i want to buy this cab for live use with the kemper

?? really asked alot if you can use the pod x3/xt and everytime everyone answerd that its just possible with the pod hd500 ...

can you assign rigs to 1 2 3 4 ? And can you use the inbuilt whammy?

Would be cool yes - but nothing that is SOOO important like a whammy

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That sounds more like something that would be in the range of a Super Lead, at least gain wise. But it still has scooped mids and not that midrange bite the olde Marshalls up to the JCM800 are known for. Knowing these amps quite well I can at least say you can't dial out that midrange sound because the tone stack on those older Marshalls is not really doing that much

But of course they could have done all sorts of things in the studio and it does sound processed to me. So your best bet would be to try the grafic EQ in the Kemper. I would look for a JCM900 profile though or maybe even a TSL. That might be a better starting point than a vintage Marshall.

Ok thank you. Maybe i just into the pre-amp-processing shown in this video. try it with other amps - maybe i get my "palm-mute-chunk" and have my perfect profile

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I know it's possible since I've seen profiles like this.

I tried doing this with Ozones match eq, by first recording a bit of the riff I'm trying to match, then created the match eq curve in Ozone, then profiled this eq curve and saved it as a cab, but it's just not there. It's way too much of a DI cab emulator sounding to be useful, obviously because I can't have both the cab profile I used for the match eq, and this new one, on at the same time.

Any tips on how to do this?

Let's say, I'm trying to get the new Kreator album tone. I know they used a mix of the EVH head and an Engl of some sort. There's a soloed rhythm guitar on the title track so that part is easy.

The problem is the cabdriver wont work that way (just with the monitor out)

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This doesn't sound like a cranked vintage Marshall to me. It's more of a modern highgain sound. Quite different frequency response and a bit scooped in the mids. I don't think you get there with the ingredients of the EVH brown sound. If it's a Marshall it's probably one of the recent high-gain range or it's something completely different like Diezel, Bogner oder Mesa Rectifier.

hm i think it sounds nothing like the normal metal sound mesa diezel and so on produces. There are those BIG, Fat highs (almost sounds as there were no cab) but not harsh or cutting at all and i never heard them anywhere else except van halen or manson/skold. I know Skold plays a Marshall 1959SL. it could also be a framus dragon or a marshall JCM800/900. And as i saw this video it was the first time i was close to this sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNrMUI1I3I

another example of skolds sound (poor quality) . And i dont think its exactly the EVH sound but the same direction.. more gain and more modern. Really think this is the false direction?

Quote from Garrincha

I'm at the office right now and can't check the video as those are blocked here. I'll check tonight when I get home.

But regarding the variac:
It's pretty much the same as the recent "powerscaling" circuits in certain boutique amps and some recent Marshalls (the YJM for example or the AFD100). They basically reduce the voltage of the (power)tubes. The variac would reduce all voltages (from the preamp valves as well). All in all it will change the character and the amount of the distortion a tiny bit but there is also a reason why these powerscaling circuits are said to be the best "Mastervolume" solution since they retain most of the character of an amp. Much more than a typical attenuator does.

So it's pretty much a great way to get the cranked amp sound at a lower volume which is why Eddie used it. I can imagine that even in the 70s nobody could crank a 100 Watt Marshall in a club. That variac thing is more about getting the brown sound at lower volumes than getting the brown sound at all.

make sense Thank you!
looking forward to your thoughts if im on the right way gettin that tone

Quote from Garrincha

Not quite. The Marshall EVH used had a built in variac (a device that reduces the power supply voltage). That was not original to the amp and a modification done probably to reduce the volume (this was before the advent of "master volume").

There has been many myth's and discussions over the years about that variac and what it did in the amp and how it contributed to the brown sound and if the amp was further modified or stock.

Recently over at another forum I've read that Dave Friedman had the amp in for service and took the opportunity to check the circuit and everything. It turned out that the amp was a bone stock '68 Super Lead. It had two odd parts compared to the majority of SLs from that year, but they seemed to be stock nevertheless. The amps back then weren't always exactely identical, they sometimes would use different parts and circuit tweaks.

Anyway it turned out that the variac didn't do much it just lowered the voltage and Ed used it as a master volume. He recently confessed he lied about the variac in that famous Guitarplayer interview in the 80s and pretending he actually raised the voltage to 140 volt. People were blowing their amps when they tried to copy that setup. What he did was actually lower the voltage to play clubs at a reasonable volume and save the wear on tubes. It doesn't do anything else.

So basically the brown sound is a stock '68 100 Watt Marshall with an early script logo phase 90 and a delay kicked in for Eruption No other pedals, no mods and the variac is merely a mastervolume.

Here is the link to a gigantic thread containing the post about Friedmans findings:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=746279

And here's Eddie talking about the variac and his lie:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-van-hale…is-biggest-lie/

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Thx for your answer. I came for it because as i mentioned i love the sound of skold and on a dvd of him he said that he uses a variac too (or voltage dont even know the difference im a noob in such things) "it is no secret because EVH did this while creating the brown sound" So i think the voltage have to do something? Have you listend the video i posted (manson - mobscene) it is some sort of brown sound isnt it?

The Brown sound was orginally created putting a voltage in front of the amp is that right? So why dont somebody upload just a real Brown Sound profile?

2. What do you think about the brownsound pedals? (wampler pinnacle and so on)

This was a very good starting point but im noth there where i want to. Need to have mor chunk in the Palm mutes but dont wanna increase the presence since it get harsh then.

(again im not searching for the Eddie Van Halen brown sound - im searching for the Skold / Marilyn Manson 2003 brown sound )

I love this tone ... so much highs but nothing harsh.. for me its simply the PERFECT guitar tone.

Example:
http://www.tape.tv/vid/7592

After this tutorial i fuckin love my kemper amp

Now i have the sound i ever wanted! (Sort of the sound on Marilyn Mansons Golden Age of Grotesque or any other Tim Skold Stuff)

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A question I have - my Gain knob and the one right next to it doesn't quite rotate properly. They tend to touch the surface of the kemper and its rather unpleasant - do you experience the same or do you think I should go for a exchange?

Have the rack too - everything is fine with mine think thats a production failure of your kemper.

laney ironheart inc

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I sure hope you guys are reading it right about Mr Kemper's saying "HINT" because that indeed would be awesome

Yes at first i thought it was a ironic thing like.

A: "Say something"
B: "Something"

hope it was really a hint would be great! if yes - thx mr Kemper

Quote from ckemper

Hint