I am pretty sure that Munky uses a Mesa Rectifier of some sort (Dual, Triple, Road King, ...). His guitar tone on the first album (and others) sounds very "standard" Recto'ish to me. I even doubt that there are many pedals (if any) involved.
So I'd start with a non-pedal Recto profile with the gain at about 5-7. It should not be too bright or fizzy for the Korn tone.
Damn, that's a great profile. I am leaning a little towards the lower gain "J" one, but both are equally good. Raw, aggressive and in-ya-face. That's how I like it.
The tags say 57+906. Have you been using both mics and mixed them or have you only been using the 906? Sounds like a single 906 to my ears at least.
While I like the OD pedal emulations in the Kemper, they do not sound like the ones where I have the real hardware counterpart on my pedalboard. To be clear, they are not worse but they are different.
Because of that, I am always profiling without a pedal (to do what you want) and with the hardware-pedal in the chain.
Those Superlux ones are pretty awesome (not just for the money asked) and they are cheap as hell. And make sure you don't buy the more expensive Superluxes. I did and returned them. And they can be retrofitted with nicer earpads for like €9.
If you're going for the "Hall of the Mountain King" through "Streets: A Rock Opera" albums, you definitely want Laney AOR Pro Tube Lead 100 profiles. I'm currently shaping Criss Oliva tones if you're interested.
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Cool! You have dialed in just the perfect amount of gain as you can hear right at the end where the guitars can be heard in solo.
What guitar did you use? Have you made any tonal/eq-adjustments beside the gain?
I profiled a combo amp with a U87 about a foot away and there isn‘t any trace of the room sound in the resulting profile.
In the other hand, I am pretty sure that when close-micing an amp with a 57 the profiling process will not be influenced by ringing guitar strings from the wall, because a) the 57 will not pick them up and b) the KPA is not „listening“ to these.
Being a huge recto fanboy and I believe I own all relevant commercial ones, these are by far the best profiles for that 1994 pop punk sound. Thanks so much for these. Really made my day ?
Haven’t used them in a mix yet, but will report back when I do. Please let us know if you do any other amps besides the recto and the Marshall
Thanks a lot for the kind words! Comments like yours really make my day!
Please please report back how they work for you, because tastes are different, guitars are different, band-context is different for all of us and there's no one profile that fits everything.
Is it too bright? Too bassy? Too middy? Too scooped? Too whatever... I really need the feedback from you to make my profiles work for as much people as possible.
I have more amps to profile (JCM 800, Bugera 6260) and more channels/modes on the Marshall 30th Anniversary and the Recto on my list.
And while everybody seems to sell their amps once they got a KPA, I am actually buying more gear :-).
Since I am enjoying the profiling game in the last weeks, I have bought: Maxon OD808 pedal, Celestion GT-T75 and Creamback speakers, Sennheiser e906 mic and an API 500 rack. Another preamp and parametric EQ for that rack are on order and should arrive in about 2 weeks. This should make my profiles far more sweet and "mix- / stage-ready" sounding. My Soundtracs Megas 32-16-2 console is very nice, but it's EQs aren't surgical enough for doing sharp cuts to get rid of some frequencies.
And this doesn't even include my wishlist of amps and cabs that I want to get...
So i'm wanting to get a decent Mesa Dual / Triple rectifier profile to nail the pop punk tones from the late 90s and early 2000s. I mainly want to replicate Tom Delonge's live tone from the 2002-2004 period.
I've tried countless rectifier profiles on the rig exchange but they just haven't been that great in my opinion. So are there any commercial profiles that would fit that description? I'm a bit hesitant to drop cash on profiles seen as though i can't try before i buy. A lot of Mesa profiles are made with the metal players in mind. Which is cool but I've found that I can't get them to where I'd like them to sound.
Thanks!
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I have just uploaded a profile to the Rig Exchange that I made with that Blink tone from Enema of the State in mind. It's free (not commercial).
If you like what you hear in this Blink-inspired clip linked below, check out this thread:
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You might have to play tighter than me and maybe back down the gain a little to sound closer to Tom.
To be honest, I have overlooked the non-brutal modes of the Dual Rectifier for a long time. Here are some examples of that.
The profiles were made with my trusty go-to-chain, which is comprises the Dual Rectifier 3ch, a Rectifier 4x12 with British V30 speakers, mic'd with an SM57 through a BAE 1073MP preamp. No pedals. Power from a Furman power conditioner.
The amp is in Channel 2 (Orange) / Vintage mode.
THE PROFILES
The profiles can be found on the Rig Exchange by searching for "RiF-DR CH2".
The brightness level goes from 1-3 , where 2 is what I consider "normal". 1 is darker and 3 is brighter. The difference in brightness is usually achieved by moving the microphone.
BONUS PROFILE
There's a "bonus profile" called "RiF-DR CH2M.s1 V30 57" which is Ch2 in Modern mode. This profile is meant to be used with a Tube Screamer type of pedal in front. The profile has the Green Screamer set up and engaged by default, which works pretty good with this profile.
THE SOUND SAMPLES
Here are some short clips. The guitars are louder than in a normal mix so you can hear them clearly. All guitar tracks have been recorded directly from the Kemper's STACK output with no FX applied. Even in Pro Tools they are kept bone dry, no EQ, no reverb, no nothing. WYHIWYG. There's a Waves SSL bus compressor and iZotope Ozone 8's Maximizer (only that module) as a brickwall limiter on the mix bus, that's it.
This tone (especially the darker ones) works very nicely with single coil pickups (see sound clip with "Strat" in the name).
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THE PICTURES
Not that many pictures this time, because they get somehow redundant.
As always, I appreciate any feedback (positive or negative) from you guys!
I always start with the 57 right at the grille pointing straight at the edge of the speaker cap and the cone.
If it's too bright, move it just a hair (in 1cm or 1/2 inch steps) to the outside, otherwise to the inside towards the cap. More often than not, I end up with an angled mic which seems to pick up both low-end and high-end better.
If you're noticing any boomyness, tilt the amp upwards or place it on a chair. Speakers close to the ground sound pretty boomy. Therefore I always mic the upper speakers in my 4x12.
And don't forget to turn up the amp way loud. 57's (and amps) do sound better this way. At my place there's a sweet spot just below the volume where the birds are falling from the sky and create a bloody mess in my backyard ;-). Which means, that if it gets too loud, the midrange will dominate the tone too much due to the poweramp saturation and proximity effect of the mic.
BTW, I find the Sennheiser e906 to work better with 1x12 combo amps than a 57, which can sound a bit tinny.
Good luck and post your findings and profiles!
PS: Start with a good tone "in the room" but mind that an amp mic'd with a 57 sounds very different to what you're hearing in the room. Adjust the amp's tone controls and the mic placement after doing the first profile to what you're hearing in the profile and don't care too much to what you're hearing in the room.
I've tried to do a profile with and EQ pedal in the loop of my DualRec, because my preamp that supports a high-pass up to that frequency of about 400Hz will not be here until early/mid December.
Actually , I had more luck with using the Studio EQ as the others suggested.
Here's a quick demo of a similar riff with the Studio EQ (low-cut 400Hz, high cut 6000Hz) engaged and then it switches (like in the YT video ) to a double-track riff without the EQ to make it biiiig.
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The profile (without the Studio EQ settings) can be found on the Rig Exchange: "RiF-DR CH3 Mod 2".
b9788217979d0d8344db4da45919913948c2ac74 sounds like you need to go shopping. It's for the good of the whole community though so it should count as philanthropy. You might even qualify for tax breaks as an act of charity
Haha ! Yeah, Christmas is close and maybe I am starting to get in to a "giving" mood ;-).
The Klark Teknik EQP is the only Pultec'y EQ I can afford currently. But I had something more exquisite´ly in mind...