Posts by b_ryan

    There is a difference in sonic quality. Clarity and response is noticeable between MK1 and MkII. Unless you have had them both side by side, and used the same rig/profile from one to another you wouldn't know. It is not new car syndrome. Its MK2 is improved syndrome.

    I can honestly say, that I have the same experience. But whether it’s

    A) my OG 2012 toaster alone that had an issue;

    B) the OG Kempers in general that sounds different;

    C) or if it - as someone here stated - is a matter of input difference

    I cannot say.

    There isn't a tonal difference, but one thing is different: the input section of the Kemper Head in Browse Mode is usually locked, so you can keep it through all rigs. The player does not lock the input section, so the input settings are coming from the rigs itself.

    I'd assume that you need to adjust your input section or try turning "input section lock" off and check out the rigs again, if you have still issues with palm muting.

    Yes, but there is a tonal difference. The tone on my distorted rigs are great now. I basically couldn’t use my Kemper OG toaster for high gain satisfactory.

    Rock drive/mild gain tones and clean tones were fine. But there was an issue with palm muting, where there was this annoying fizziness. The Helix had the same issue. I didn’t really enjoy it.

    And no. There is no problem now. I sold the OG toaster before buying the Player hoping the 2.0 was close by, so I would give Kemper a second chance before jumping ship. I could easily sell the Player. But once hooked up everything was different. The sound and the ability to reamp through USB, which I couldn’t before. How the difference came about, I don’t know. Perhaps it’s an input thing. I don’t know, but I have never been as happy as a Kemper owner, as I am right now.

    I’ve read her eon the forum that there is a difference in sound, not drastic but noticeable, between the earlier profilers and the more recent ones. Yours toaster is one of the earlier ones, so the difference between it and a Player may be more audible than that between a newer Mk I and a Mk II.

    Yeah….but that’s just it. Kemper says that there isn’t a difference (as far as I remember) between the OG toasters and the later models. I can just say, that the difference from my OG toaster to the Player is massive. I always hated the sound of palm muting on high gain, because there was some “digital fizziness” I couldn’t get rid off no matter what profile or IR, I used. Now it’s not there on any right now at all. I was literally blown away from the very beginning of plugging in the Player. It’s amazing. I’m looking forward to 2.0, but I already have something really great, so I can wait.

    I think it's the "new car smell" syndrome. I think it's great you can upgrade and be happy with it, but hearing a real difference of the same exact rig falls along the lines of being subjective. ;)

    Yes, and that’s exactly what I’m referring to. I’ve had this unit for 13 years and I could never find a high gain profile I could use. Not in 13 years. Tried many guitars. Tried many high end audio interfaces. The only two things staying the same were my toaster and my monitors.


    I decided to sell it and buy a Player because of 2.0 to see if that was gonna be the thing I needed; and if not I could sell it and try something else.

    The player arrived and I restored my profiles on it. I was really surprised. It sounded so thick and the annoying fizziness was gone. I have through 13 years battled something I used to describe as digital fizziness.

    Then I for a day tried a Helix. Same digital fizziness. The Player arrived and everything changed.

    As I said. I don’t care that people say, that it cannot be true. I’ve never ever been happy with my distorted profiles. Never. It’s not the same sound. It’s not “new car smell. But I understand that people don’t believe me. And that’s okay :) I don’t care. I’ve become really happy for the first time.

    EDIT: I’ve come the conclusion, that it’s possible that my toaster quite possibly could have suffered from some sort of failure or something. I could never reamp through USB. No matter how many times I tried. The s/pdif wasn’t working properly. It made clicking noises with all types of cable quality. I had some issues over the years. With the Player I reamped and it worked first time.

    I could hear quite a significant difference going from my 2012 toaster to the Player. I don’t care what people are saying. It’s not the same sound, I get. Not even close. The Player sounds so much better. Any profile I use now sounds great. It was hard to find a great one on my toaster. So I don’t care about how it should be this or that. It’s absolutely not the same sound. I was very close to give up on the Kemper and switch to something else. Now I just get that wow-feeling with all rigs. Something is definitely different. So when the 2.0 comes out I’m sure it’s gonna be amazing.

    Unfortunately we a cannot really comment on the new 2.0 with limited info available.... it is all what if's?, what it really is? and what it sounds like. X mas round the corner and maybe, just maybe we get an early present coming from Germany. :)

    Yes, but that’s still relating to 2.0.

    CPU, how Kemper evolves their products, other companies products etc is not very related to the topic. In fact I got some posts deleted earlier, that were a lot closer to profiling 2.0 than this. My post here should also be deleted to keep the conversation on topic. But also a lot of the latest posts here on this thread is off topic.

    The fact that Kemper has drastically improved their products over many years without changing the hardware […]

    So many does this. It’s not a Kemper thing. Line 6 has developed Helix for 10 years as well; and has introduced other Helix products as well.

    But ain’t this going way too off topic. Not much is profiling 2.0 related lately.

    And I totally get that. And I totally get, that people want a compressor with more flexibility or more different compressors. I get it. Totally. I get why people use them in a mix. Totally.

    I just don’t use one, as it doesn’t do anything for me. I just play and use the sound, that’s coming out. I adjust my playing accordingly to the technique, I’m using. I don’t see why it’s bad to have a naturally dynamic range.

    But I understand why people want to minimize that dynamic range. I just don’t feel the need. Never had.

    But more compressors to the people. I’m all for that.

    It's about how you use them. Not simple at all and if you can hear the compression there's probably too much. I use very little on acoustic guitar and none on high gain.

    Yes, but if I can’t hear it. Then why use it? That’s kinda how I ended up ditching it. Too much is unusable. Not hearing it is not an option either. Why use it then?

    But I get it. People kinda want the lowest audible and the highest audible sound to be closer to each other. I don’t really care. I just play, I guess. I stopped caring 20 years ago :D


    But I’m sorry….this is off topic.

    What kind of music? I got my first one in 1980 and almost always use some sort. I use clean tones a lot.

    Admittedly, mostly extreme metal. I know heavy distortion sound is supposedly squashed quite a bit. We did clean stuff as well though.

    Then I left metal and played acoustic guitar in an acoustic cover/party band. Then I played electric guitar for 3 years in a cover/party band.

    Admittedly, I tried introducing a compressor to my setup those last 3 years; but only because there seemed to be consent everywhere about the use of a compressor as a must-have tool. So I did try. I just always pulled it off my setup, as it never really did anything for me.

    It didn’t make anything sound better. It didn’t make it sound more pro. Admittedly, to my ears.

    Admittedly, I know what the compressor is supposed to do and I can hear its work, when the sound is being heavily squeezed; but I never really seemed to understand how to use one in regards to making the sound better

    But I do understand the concept, and why people think, they need it. So I understand why, people might want more compressor options. It’s just nothing I will ever use.

    This is exactly what I mean, you will be able to run 2.0 profiles but you won't get the quality you will have on MK2.

    Yes. So whether you get 2.0 on the MKi is a matter of how you define it. It’s a yes and a no.

    Just an extract of the presentation of the MK2 you can easilly read on the site itselt of first page :

    " ... At the heart of the PROFILER MK 2 Series works an upgraded processing engine, unlocking faster performance, with boot times clocking in around 20 seconds, and a host of new features that expand the boundaries of what a modern guitar or bass rig can do."

    Very well noticed. I know nothing about DSP and computer stuff. But could it be, that - as others here have said - it’s not all up to the DSP alone; and regarding power for both the 2.0 profiling and the running of the 2.0 profiles that it’s affiliated with something else?

    So when you quote “[…] upgraded processing engine, unlocking faster performance […]”, that could mean something entirely different than just the chip alone?

    As I said I’m not a computer geek, so I’m just wondering if 2.0 is related to the chip alone; and I mean both the 2.0 profiling and the running of 2.0 profiles.

    As mentioned here by myself - and others - the 2.0 profiles will be running in a downscaled version on the MKi. So that could mean, that it’s stuff connected to the chip, which is key to 2.0.



    We do not know why the new profiling will not be supported on the Mk1. Kemper says it will not be offered on the Mk1 and we’ll have to trust them if they say it can’t run on the Mk1. I would tend to trust them if they say there is a reason for this.

    But didn’t they say, that it will be offered on MKi? Just in a different (downscaled) format: that you can play the 2.0 profiles on the MKi, but in a slightly downscaled resolution?

    In that case why 2.0 profiles with the 2.0 quality are not avaible for legacy toasters?

    I’m certain that they will be. I’m pretty sure, that they have have said so already. Albeit in a slightly “downscaled” (in lack of a better word) version. So even if it’s not the actual power - or power limit - it’s quite possible something technical, most of us don’t know about.

    Hello,

    Are you sure about the same DSP power? I hope you are not and I really doubt you are right.

    I don’t know if it was officially confirmed, but that was the impression, I was left with: that it’s the same or equal to the old one. But am I sure? No.

    But it might be, that to run profiles doesn’t really require that much more power and that it’s the profiling 2.0, that demands more power; and that’s where the computer enters the equation. So it might be true, because it’s the 2.0 profiling process, that needs more power.

    […] That doesn’t mean that the developers couldn’t have been using the glitchy software to begin making 2.0 profiles […]

    But hasn’t there been talk for quite a while, that exactly profile creators already have had access to 2.0? Maybe it’s just some unofficial talking. But it would make a lot of sense, that there are a lot of 2.0 profiles to dive into upon release. For us non-profiling users anyhow.