Dear all, dear schneidas,
sorry, this seems to get out of hand. I have no problem with your opinion that "Spain 2012 is the best team ever". But I am picky when you qualify my opinion as "invalid".
Nevertheless let me answer your statements where we disagree most. Maybe just for the entertainment of the others
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I was just replying as you obviously targeted an entire post at me. There's no rudeness intended in what I said. I was merely stating a fact.
What "fact"? That the current Spanish team is the "most awesome team ever" or "unbeatable"?
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Btw, there was no smiley in your initial post - so what? Does this qualify you as rude? By your definition: yes!
As far as I can tell there has been a smiley (where I stated that it might be a matter of personal opinion). So this should cover your requirement. And it also has signalled that I'm pissed but understand that there are different perspectives.
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Here's two examples of someone that could interpret you being rude:
Both correct observations. I personally would qualify that as "sarcastic" I'm a little disgusted by the hype on the Spanish team of 2012 considering the Euro tournament in total. I certainly applaud Spain for winning the championship, but I completely repudiate that they are "lightyears ahead" or "best ever".
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You did, "Clearly the most awesome team ever... unbeatable!". My point is that games of teams on this level are quite close and very often the physical fitness or plain luck decides those games. When Spain had lost in the penalties against Portugal would you still qualify them as the "most awesome team ever"?
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Let me know when your book gets published, as I will definitely be buying it.
So provide some input!
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The teams you are listing next are valid. Although again your opinion is debatable.
No problem with that, schneidas! As you can see I like controversies. But you didn't debate; you just stated that everything I said is invalid except that I said to have a different opinion.
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Exactly. *Your* personal opinion. Why are we even having this conversation?
Because a forum is for discussing different opinions and maybe learn something from it. And not qualifying other opinions as "invalid". And you tell me that you do not care about my opinion, but then why are you presenting yours initially? Should I care or not?
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That being said, take any of the teams you mentioned and let them play against yesterday's Spain. I bet Spain would hold up or even win. But the discussion is pointless.
You're right. It is impossible to compare the playing styles of different decades. For example the technical expertise of the Puzcas or Pele team was amazing, their athleticism was low compared to now.
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Maybe not to you. I'm not going to loose sleep over it.
I was talking about the 2010 World Cup. But here we also disagree, fine.
A lost chance of finding out the fundaments of our opinions.
Best regards
DrTT