If that makes sense:
My KemperStage output has -12db engaged (fixed attenuation), and Kemper output master is set to -12dB too.
IMHO, X32 outputs are somewhat too hot and noisy for Behringer P2. So, I ended up with a xlr fixed -12 dB attenuator, between X32 out and P2 input. No more noise and very good sound, since.
BTW, I do prefer Behringer P2 over P1 (I own both). My i.e.m. are Westone Audio AM Pro 30.
In such situation, you may get good results with an usb isolator.
Such as : http://www.keterex.com/kxusb150.php?gt
It has saved some cases in my studio setup. There may be cheaper items around, though.
which is why I wish Kemper would figure out how to send the Imprints in a useful way to the main outs ... Once you've used a Kone, it's hard to know that FOH isn't getting that tone.
I think, if Kone+inprint may be best for guitar player on stage, doesn't mean it is for FOH and audience. AFAIK the best for FOH and audience is Kemper main outputs. In other words: different jobs, different tools.
You can save Output settings as a preset so you would only need to toggle between Solo Monitor and Band Monitor output presets.
Clever, handsome and great! Thanks very much for the tip.
But, I guess it depends on your own tone expectations. I doubt any setting will ever give you some real “thump" or “woof“ feel thru any i.e.m. AFAIK, deep sub comes mainly thru your chest and feet, not ears.
Not to mention playing a Marshall 2 x 4-12, or an Ampeg 8-10...
You'll probably have different perceptions during rehearsals and gig. You'll probably “feel“ the bass part of the mix coming from the rear side of the PA.
So, by now, in my rehearsal studio, I send a mono mixer out to a small bass-amp (an ampeg amp, bass set to max, high set to 0). This bass amp level is light, just to mimic stage overall i.e.m. tone feeling. Works very well for me and my fellow musicians. No more weird surprise during soundcheck.
The more I listen the less happy I am with what i hear. [...] So where to start? [...]
In case this may help, RickWillitts, my advice is first think what you're really looking for. IMHO, there's not such thing as a good guitar tone, nor the best guitar tone.
There are two very different steps instead: first building a good PA band tone, in which your guitar is only a part, and second finding a stage tone which really helps your playing (not the more glamorous tone, nor hifi tone). For, sadly, you'll never be listening in the audience while playing on stage.
BTW being confident with the PA mixing guy may bring significant help in your quest. And some “in the room“ recordings too (with a well placed very good microphone pair, not mixer output recordings).
IMOE, a good i.e.m. may bring you much farther than any frfr ever will (i.e. mine is Westone Audio ampro30). Last, but not least, with i.e.m., a little “weakness“ in bass is often welcome, cause during a real world gig, you will “feel“ much bass coming from rear side of PA.
Have a good time playing and share good vibes around.
[...]It's between the monitor out and the powered monitors. I unplugged the usb cable to verify and nothing changed.
If you're sure, then you may try the 600/600 (or 10k/10k), transformer trick. Be sure to use one with a grounf-lift button, though. TS jack / XLRm cable from Kemper to trans-box and XLRf / XLRm cable from trans-box to amplified monitor (xlr line input, not mic input). Check with and without ground-lift. Hope you solve the case.
AFAIK, when it comes to hum or buzz, sigle coil pickups, ground loops, computers, light dimmers are your enemies. Your friends are 600/600 and 10k/10k transformers with ground-lift buttons. But you will not win every battle.
I also had good luck with a Keterex full-speed usb isolator. Discontinued, but others may be found, I guess. https://www.mouser.fr/ProductDetail/…5h7F1VyFQ%3D%3D
Sorry to not come with what you ask for.
But to my ears it sounds like 24 dB/oct
I've made many searches on that question years ago. My conclusion was real speakers have their own cut-off slope. Simulation at 24 dB/oct was not enough and 36 dB/oct was to much. I went with a somewhat satisfacting slope at 30 dB/oct.
You may consider a Lehle Dual Expression, too.
IMOE, nothing comes close. Unbreakable, magnetic sensor (no pot), travel has very good feeling.
Sorry to be slightly off-topic. For all of my “serious“ devices (kemper stage, synth, amp), I bought fly-cases on special order from swanflight.com
I went with “flightpanel - blue“ (not wood). IMHO, they are sturdy, feather-light, and extremely well buit.
Yes, Slateboy, way faster Stage shut-down here, too.
Is Deoxit equivalent to Kontakt60? In case not, what are the specs of Deoxit?
I can't tell what's better for you, but I'm totally pleased with my Stage. So I suggest a Stage. But if you already own many high end stomp boxes (and are proficient and happy with them), you may pay attention to that *Player-versus-Stage* question.
Of course some will disagree: I'm happy to be well trained with the Kemper generic profile. It's now stuck in my ears and fingers. So, when trying a new amp in a rig, I can set it where I need in seconds, even if I have never used this brand and type amp.
I do understand that someone who has tweaked in the real world, a certain real amp for long, it's fine to use the exact Liquid Profile and get the expected response.
[...]I get all the thump I want (sometimes more) from the subs under the stage.
That's exactly my experience with iem.
So I had to set some sort of filtered low-frequency-only speaker in my rehearsal studio. This one does some sub and some low-mid. Now, going from studio to stage is not perfect, but feeling is ok.
I've been thru intensive experimentations about guitar speakers behavior for long. Specially about native high frequencies properties.
I came to this conclusion: guitar amp speakers' native high-cut are around 30dB/oct. That is to say, trying to mimic a guitar speaker behavior with a FRFR, thru a 24dB/oct high-cut is not enough, but 36dB/oct is too much. And of course, cut-off frequencies vary much according to speaker size and types.
Hope this may help in your investigations.
The parameter Crossover in the legacy Tremolo was very inefficient and had a similar effect as Depth. We consciously decided to get rid of it with the revision of the tremolo effects and have no plans to reintroduce it.
Thanks for posting, Burkhard, but I'm sorry to disagree. I quite often gig without bass player. Consistent bass (no tremolo) achieved thru crossover, and waving medium (tremolo) did help me for a great overall band sound. Since last update, I can't get there anymore thru depth parameter alone.
Sorry to chime in with no great help, but just sayin' I'm very happy with my Lehle expression pedal. Smooth feeling for volume and morphing the Kemper, and for expression with my keyboard synths.
Have you tried a Kemper studio eq fx? According rigs, I get very good resuts with high cut set between 4kHz and 2kHz (fx, after amp and cabinet emulations).
BTW Westone iem rock (mine are discontinued AM prop 30). And perfect for my voice too (BTW, no eq on iem bus).
