Kind of - but you can turn it on or off like any other stomp and remove the entire works from the signal chance, as well as place other before or after effects around it etc.
Is there any difference placing my overdrives in to the input? Could I still control my pedal switcher using midi to turn on/off loops?
When you go to choose adding an effect in front of the stack (amp/cab), you can choose compressor, Kemper Drive/Fuzz, modulation etc.
Loop Distortion is one of those choices. It's meant specifically for placing dirt pedals in line. if you place it right before the amp/cab, it's like smacking the front end of a tube amp.
Looks like this on the unit:
Oh I see! So it’s pretty much the same as plugging my pedals straight in to the input of the Kemper?
I use a Disaster Area Designs DMC.micro (3 loop MIDI controllable) to bring my favorite dirt pedals in and out. You have to use Performance mode for this to work....
Use the effects loop on the profiler and use the loop distortion stomp to place it where ever you want it in the chain. MIDI out from the Profiler, in on the switcher. Program each slot to activate the pedals you want.
Works great for me.
Oh awesome! I figured there was a way. So using the effects loop, is it like hitting the front of an input on an amp? Not sure what you mean about the "loop distortion stomp".
Hello all,
I've been thinking lately that I would like to run some of my analog stomp boxes with the Kemper stage. Mainly overdrives and boost pedals, I'm mostly happy with the other effects for the meantime. Might add more later as I experiment. I have my old pedal board setup which has what I need, also have two Voodoo labs pedal switchers and a Voodoo labs midi controller. It's the older style ones but they still work fine. I'm wondering if there's a way to have the Kemper stage turn on/off the patches on the pedal switcher like the Voodoo labs midi controller does. The idea is that I don't want the pedals in my chain when they are not being used. Also, not sure if I should go in to the input of the pedal switcher and output from pedal switcher to input of Kemper or should I just use one of the effect loops on the stage? With a traditional amp setup I know you would want to hit the input of the amp with overdrives and boosts and NOT put them into an effects loop but I saw a video with Michael Britt where he's using a Voodoo Labs hex in the effects loop of the Kemper so that's why I'm questioning it now. Anybody here have any experience with using the Voodoo Labs product with the Kemper? Any advice or tips?
TIA
Main Kemper Stage pedalboard demo (youtube.com)
This is the pedal switcher I have.
Ok figured it out. The missing piece was the pedal links section and check wah to volume. Works now!
Can’t seem to find any videos or anything in the manual explaining both. Setting up either one is easy enough to do but whenever I switch to a wah or volume it seems to be global, I can’t seem to use both at the same time. If anyone has any suggestions or tips on how to set it up it would be appreciated.
Is it possible to use 1 pedal as a wah and volume or do I need a second pedal to assign it as a volume?
hey... I ve just tested it with the last 8.7.6 Beta. No more delay in sound' switch here
oh really? I’ll have to give it a shot!
I’ve ALWAYS had a latency when switching rigs using a midi foot controller. I’ve even written about it here when i first got the kemper 6 or 7 years ago. Coming from a jmp1 preamp, changes on the kemper seemed really late. I measured it to around 170ms. Slower when going from one performance to another, than within one performance.
However i’ve just learned to live with it and nowadays i don’t really think about it. Back before loopswitchers and rack units, switching from a clean sound to lead with delay, chorus and boost, took like one second, so really 170ms is not that big an issue for me.
Perhaps it’s better with the kemper control than midi.
yeah it kinda seems like I’ll have to learn to live with it as well.
Hey everyone,
Anybody here have any experience measuring latency from Ableton or Studio One? Kemper support is asking me to do this and I have no idea where to start. This basically started because I’m hearing latency when switching patches in a performance. I’ve read of lot of comments on here and it seems that some people experience it and others don’t. I just want to be 100% certain that there’s nothing wrong with my unit. I already have gotten a replacement for the “clock setup error”
Issue.
I have contacted support and sent them a video of the issue. Thanks for the help so far everyone.
Did you ever figure this out? I am also experiencing the same thing. Switching from a clean to overdriven sound give me a slight pause/delay in the sound. Curious if you managed to get to the bottom of this.
I'm going to check that out. Thanks!
Hi guys,
When we discuss "switching lags", we have to make a distiction between the time the transition takes, and a possible sound pause.
When you switch Rigs inside the same Performance, the reaction time will only be a handful of milliseconds.
There will be no sound pause or gap, because both rigs will be crossfaded. This is quite a unique feature in digital guitar amps.
The crossfade, however, might give you the impression of a lag.
You can control the crossfade time by the parameter "Rig X-Fade Time" in the System Menu.
The lower you set it, the faster and harder is the sound transition.
Oooh, that's the first I hear of that! Maybe that's my issue. It's basically a part in a song where I was switching from a complete clean rig to an overdriven rig. I almost had to click the button before the change to that each rig would load quick enough. So maybe it is the crossfade setting. I will check that out tonight!
The main reason I sold my Fractal Audio FM3 and got a Stage was because of the pretty unacceptable lag between switching scenes and channels, which are supposed to be instant according to Fractal. I wonder if something is up with your Stage specifically because I am also extremely picky about switching lag, and I have never noticed any lag on a Stage. I don't think the clock sync error has anything to do with switching at all. It just means you have to enter the date every time you power the thing up (which is also super annoying, I also had that issue and got a replacement from Kemper).
I already did get a replacement for the clock error so I agree that's it's not that.
should be super easy. Make sure your Clean Sense is set for your guitar(s) and lock the input section. Remember that the Input menu is independent between Browser mode and Performance Mode. Then use either Amp Volume or Rig volume to balance the levels across Rigs.
While I do notice a lag in Browser Mode I get zero lag in Performance Mode. I use Browser Mode at home for trying stuff out but only ever use Performance mode live.
I rarely use OD as I prefer to just find a rig that works for me. I never really used OD Pedals with my valve amps either though. However, I have tested the new Kemper Drive OD Fx and think they sound really fantastic. I have no issue using them when required. The same is true of the new Fuzzes. I have never noticed the note being cut off with an OD any differently than with a high gain amp profile. Sounds like a noise gate issue.
I was worried about this too at the beginning. I tested it against my Korg Rack tuner (I sold the Korg afterwards
), Boss TU3, Logic and Guitar Rig software tuners, RJM Mastermind midi controller, and a Peterson iPhone tuner app. The Kemper was spot against them all. I now only use the Kemper tuner on my Remote and use it in Strobe Mode. Can’t imagine going back to the bubble thing ever.
yeah, the consensus seems to be that there is no lag. I’m going to hook up the profiler to my DAW and do some testing. If I’m hearing lag still I’m going to send the recordings to Kemper support as they have requested.
I’m always using the stage in performance mode while I’m live.
I’ll mess around some more with the OD’s, maybe I haven’t found the right one or haven’t dialed in the right sound that I like. And I’m guessing the noise gate is the issue with the notes getting cut off.
Thanks! 
I use mine in P&W. Lots of patch changes in each song. Also lots of jumping from pads to clean to hairy to lead tones. Large televised worship setting. Lag would not be tolerated by me our the sound engineer. No issues here. Over a year in. Used 2-3 times every single week. Sorry you’re having issues. Hopefully they get it resolved. The Stage is the single best piece of gear I have purchased in 32 years of playing live.
thanks, I’ll be doing some investigating before my next shows this weekend.
Is there a specific procedure to do this or is an email enough?
I'm not really sure. Last time I just send a message via their website and they opened a ticket. I'm doing the same.
me either
Ok, it's starting to sound like an issue with mine then. Hmm, I might have to open a ticket with Kemper support.
never noticed any lag switching rigs on the same performance.
Really? Initially I had a problem with my first Kemper stage. It had the "clock setup error" which Kemper replaced the unit. I did a backup/restore and I noticed that it didn't fully restore everything. ie: my external pedal settings for my expression pedal needed to be redone. I'm wondering if maybe something didn't go right with the restore?
