Posts by HornsUp607

K, I guess I’ve never had reason to record two tracks simultaneously from the 18i20 so I assumed the DAW would only “see” an incoming signal from one output on the interface. If I can select any output I want on the interface in my DAW that would make things simple and I would just need to deal with latency issues. Depending on how far off the audio “prints” on the DAW I guess it could sound a little like delay, no?

I’ve always messed around with GarageBand and didn’t have the high end gear I have now so I haven’t done enough recording. Logic is as simple as GarageBand if you want it to be so I’m still trying to learn even some of the more basic functions but I basically use it like I did GarageBand.

I feel like it’s a lot of work, programming drums and keys. I don’t even play keyboards but it’s really easy to correct notes almost like typing a document in Word with a spell checker. Playing guitars is more like cursive writing on post it notes. You can’t correct your handwriting but you can patch together a bunch of post it notes to say what you want to say. I do like to play leads in one full take, otherwise I’m always patching things together.

Quote from Wheresthedug

I’m afraid I don’t follow the logic of this signal path.

Your DAW doesn’t need to “pick up both signals from the same USB” (although in reality that is exactly what it will be doing).

The Sansamp will feed an input (or pair of inputs) in the 18i20. The Sansamp DI will feed the input of the KPA. The KPA outs will feed other inputs on the 18i20. Everything goes through the 18i20 and out the same USB to your DAW. In the DAW assign each track its own Input number from the 18i20. You can record as many simultaneous tracks as the 18i20 can handle.

the bigger issue is likely to be phase alignment of the signals. The Sansamp signal wont have any Digital Latency other than what the 18i20 adds. However, the KPA will have some latency from the convertors. You may find that you need to nudge one track’s position to make the phase align. Alternatively (and probably much more reliable) just insert a Sample Delay plugin on any tracks that need aligned and apply the appropriate delay.

Alternatively' you could just profile the Sansamp and do everything in the KPA ?

I have an 18i20 myself and have a SansAmp Bass Driver going into input 1 or 2 and connecting to my DAW via USB from the Focusrite. So question, the Tech 21 DI has a parallel output with true bypass tone. I’d like to direct the unaffected tone to the Kemper and have a second affected DI track going into the 18i20. The problem I foresee is having my DAW pick up both signals from the same USB connection.

So ideally, I would like to record the same bass part on two different tracks. The Kemper would be the cleaner of the two and I would like the second track to be the dirty Sansamp. I know Doug Pinnick records this way and I’ve read that Geddy Lee also runs parallel rigs.

I’m assuming I need to record the Kemper directly from the Kemper USB in the Kemper and the SansAmp directly from the
18i20 USB out? Then set up my DAW to record both tracks simultaneously? I think that’s how it would have to work in theory but haven’t had time to monkey with it. In the DAW I foresee panning the Kemper track hard left and dropping the DB’s with the Sansamp sitting in the middle of the mix and more pronounced. Just a vision I have but I’m open to different mixing solutions if I can get both tracks up and running for simultaneously recording.

I have a very small guitar workstation/home studio that consists of an iMac, Sennheiser HD650 headphones and a rack full of gear. I recently swapped out the Line6 Helix for a Kemper rack after realizing I was only using the Axe-Fx. I like the Axe-Fx well enough but I could literally spend 8 hours tweaking a patch, just dialing in the tone. What I didn’t like about the Helix was the A/B of the modeled amps vs the AxeFx and the Kemper appears to have a bit more profiled options.

With the AxeFx I work exclusively with the AxeEdit software, similar to Rig Manager in a lot of ways. I would like to use Rig Manager as much as possible, for everything if I could...

A few questions I haven’t found easy answers for on the interwebs:

A. I have some stuff from Tone Junkie and I noticed they include effect presets that can be stored individually in an All Presets folder. I’m used to saving effects in my Axe-Edit and dropping them into different patches. So how do I save, for example, a dual delay effect that I’ve created and drop it into a Presets folder of my own? I would like to have my own folder of effects in my preferred settings and simply drag them into a rig. I would also like to tweak some of the settings on existing Tone Junkie effects and save them to my folder - rather than having to adjust them or change the original settings.

B. I have run the latest Rig Manager updates and update my Kemper to the newest software version. I have read about the new Kemper drives and reverbs, are they stored in the Kemper Factory folder in the All Presets section? When I pull up reverbs and drives from the drop down in the editor it doesn’t show anything different from what I think I saw when I first turned on the unit, before updating.

C. Importing IR’s. I have a ton of York Audio IR’s and they’re great, how do I save them in Rig Manager (I would guess All Presets) and how do I know which profiles allow me to use my own IR’s? I might purchase the GGD All the Gains pack just to have the option to use my favorite York IR’s if that’s possible. I do know that GGD is advertising the ability to swap out an IR so that’s a big selling point for me.

D. Saving rigs I’ve tweaked? I see an option to copy a rig, just not sure where it goes. Ideally I would copy a rig I want to save with adjustments and keep the original intact just in case I want to create an additional rig from the same base profile. Also, after I have made changes to a rig and saved them is there a way to restore the rig to it’s original settings without deleting it and restoring it from a file on my Mac?

E. Is there a way to type in values in Rig Manger rather than “turn the knob”? For example, if want to set a TS808 at 1.3 I would rather type that in than tune it in, just faster and maybe I have some OCD. Obviously there’s no discernible difference between 1.30 and 1.29.

The biggest difference I see between the Kemper and the Axe is the amount of customization available. I like the idea of NOT tweaking an amp and just making adjustments in EQ and choice of effects. I’m just having trouble adjusting from the editors and I really don’t want to touch any hardware buttons if I can help it. My rack is under the desk, not easily accessible.

I do like having everything under my desk in theory but some days I feel more like a computer programmer than a guitar player. I’ve literally played a 10 second clip into a looper on the Axe-Fx and spent a solid 2-3 hours tweaking IR’s, amp settings and doing EQ. It’s not as much fun as playing and you can end up in a rabbit hole where it doesn’t sound any better afterwards than it did when you started “turning” virtual knobs.

Thanks for reading, I just don’t see a lot of answers on the web. Looks like a lot of editing is done on the unit itself but I’d like to avoid that and use Rig Manager for everything. My Kemper stays in the rack, I’m not playing out...