Posts by gavinashun

Quote from ST

I have documented how I'm controlling the looper in the Kemper Profiler Player (Level III) with the XSONIC AIRSTEP here:
https://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/inde…_Looper_Control

I hope that helps you.

Oh wow! Thanks, this is going to be so helpful!!

Quote from slateboy

Agree, it can be like crackign the enigma code but you'll probably find this is the case for most "deep" midi control usign NRPN with any other piece of gear.

I myself have in the past had to work it all out and as a result created this little NRPN calculator http://greendog.co.uk/kemper

One of the other guys on this forum has done a far more elaborate job than mine but i dont recall who or where to find their project.

i am aware i havent done a comprehensive coverage of all NRPN and certainly not updated since the recent OS13 update which has even more parameters.

This calculator is awesome! Will definitely refer back to this. I'm gearing up to program my MIDI controller to be able to control the Kemper Player Level III Looper, which will require NRPN mapping. So this looks super helpful!

Kemper's MIDI documentation needs to make this far easier. Ridiculous in 2025 that they are making this so hard.

Documentation needs to be:

7-bit MIDI controllers:

Looper Reverse (or whatever): Send following sequence of CC messages: CC98 -> CC99 -> CC119 etc

14-bit MIDI controllers:

Looper Reverse (or whatever): Send following sequence of CC messages: CC12 -> CC33 -> CC99 -> CC119 etc

Just make a dictionary of what to do, don't make people learn Hex + MSB + LSB + a bunch of other stuff that literally no other guitar pedal uses.

/end rant

Hi Alan,

Thank you for the reply! Yeah, I've been starting to learn about morphing as a solution - I think that can get me most of the way there.

But more importantly ... oh my god: thank you for letting me know about assigning FX footswitches in Rig Manager! The way my desk is setup, it is not at all convenient to have to hold the physical switch while pushing the FX footswitch button (see pic!) So this was always cumbersome and awkward. That is going to save me so much time! Thanks again!

I can get a given effect to toggle between On/Off ... and I can set it up so it toggles between Effect A and Effect B.

But I haven't seemed to figure out if it is possible to have a "3 state toggle" between Effect A by itself / Effect B by itself / Off.

Is that possible? It seems like no ... but this seems like a really basic thing to want to do.

(Side note - having to physically press effect buttons on the Kemper simultaneously to pushing the Remote button, and not being able to do that in Rig Manager seems insanely bad, cumbersome, and outdated.)

A standalone Freeze effect (whether a Fixed Effect or otherwise), independent of Reverb or Delay, has been my #1 effect request for a long time.

Quote from carloswalter

Yes, they will still work. And no, they will not sound better, they will sound the same.

Cool thanks!

Hi all ... I'm sure this has been answered somewhere but can't find it. My question is regarding backward compatibility:

1) Will existing MK1 profiles still work on MK2?

2) Will they sound identical or be different (better?) on MK2?

Thanks, -g

Quote from waraba

wOT , a kind of DLC ??? that's pretty strange , especially for the ones already owing the big brothers.

the player has already a few connectivity limitations , no profiling ability, and only a few fx slots ... etc, why take the DLC road ???

In economics this is called "price discrimination."

Basically imagine you have 100 potential customers for this product.

One group of 50 (we'll call them Group A) will only pay $700 for it; and if it is only $700, they are ok with a more limited set of features.

Another group of 25 people (Group B) will buy it for $700 with more limited features, but *would* pay $1000 for it with expanded features.

Another group of 25 people (Group C) will only buy it with expanded features, and they would pay $1000 for that.

If you sell it with limited features for $700, Group A will buy and group B will buy, and you will make $52,500 (75*700)

If you sell it with expanded features for $700, all 100 will buy, and you will make $70,000 (100*700)

If you sell it with expanded features for $1000, only Group B and C will buy, and you will make $50,000 (50*1000)

But what if there was a way to sell it with limited features for $700 and expanded features for $1000?

Now all 100 will buy and you make $85,000 (Group A: 50*700, Group B & C: 50*1000).

DLC allowed for price discrimination which maximizes your revenue in many cases. Companies love price discrimination but in many cases it is either impossible or illegal (i.e. a company could maximize their revenue if they charged a rich person $50 for a box of cereal but a poor person $5, but you can't do that both logistically or legally). But in situations where they can do it, they often will do it.

Quote from Kellerblues

Palmer. Reasonably priced and Pro level. There is even a Joe Bonamassa signature model

Thanks - looks perfect!

Anyone know a nice pedalboard DI? I'm thinking of the use-case of Player TS Out --> effects you want after amp --> DI box --> XLR to PA.

Most of the DI boxes I'm aware of are also like speaker sim's and stuff like that, which isn't needed with something like the Player.

Any good pedalboard friendly DI box recommendations for using with Player?

Just to confirm, are we interpreting this:

"Thus we consider since quit a while to offer one or two software upgrade (with costs), that will boost the Players features towards the Head, Rack and Stage."

To mean that it is possible/likely that they will offer a paid upgrade for the Player to have more features of the Head/Rack/Stage? Like for example more effects?

That was how I read it but wanted to confirm.

Hi guys - if anyone wants to know which effects on in the Player vs. full Kemper, here you go.

Quote from Burkhard

Let's focus on how to turn effect modules on/off via foot buttons at the Player.

Thanks, this is super helpful. Yeah sounds like MIDI CC# 75-78 is going to give by far the most control. And a lot of people use MIDI controllers these days so that should work for a lot of people. And other people might just really be thinking about it as an amp + direct solution. Both great use cases.

The one thing I'll have to bone up on is using USB for midi, as I don't have any experience with that. Hoping and expecting that a regular 5-pin to USB cable will work similar to how other midi devices work.

Quote from VelourLoveshirt

The Kemper is an amplifier profiler.

All the extras that are included on the Kemper profile amplifier are awesome and great. But they are not really a repository of stand alone amplifier profiles any longer.

The player gives you an option to select the amplifiers that you want from the profiler repository. You load that via USB to your player which is now part of your pedal board. Your pedal board can have pre and post effects which can be arranged as needed.

This may not be for a person who depends on performances. I personally only need three or four amplifiers to cover almost any music I play which is a lot. I can navigate the effects as needed, it's more fluid for me this way. I hate being locked into predefined profiles without the ability to tweak as needed in live situations.

The Player will be and integral part of my new pedal board.

Yes, some people will want to use the Player purely as their amp, and using pedalboard for all effects.

Other people will want to use the Player to replace many of their effects, because Kemper effects sound very good overall. And this also saves pedalboard space, which is often at a premium.

Different people will want to use it in different ways.

Has anyone compiled a list of effects that are not included on the Player?

Quote from AJLopes

Try this!

https://www.thomann.de/de/harley_bent…ntr_b_stock.htm

I already use this: https://www.morningstar.io/mc6-pro

I'm guessing a cable like this could work? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00…e?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the cable I use to connect my Strymon's to my computer for using the Strymon editor.

Thank you aehaem  Bakersounds and luntho. Checking out the manual now. Good to know that those footswitches can be used for anything.

Regarding MIDI ... I've never personally used a USB to 5-pin cable but I guess they exist? That is another nice solution.

4 effects max is fine with me - this is designed to be used on a pedalboard.

But I'm confused how we are turning those effects on/off.

Obviously we don't have a manual yet, but can anyone suss this out based on what we know already?

Quote from Morph

Spdif is your friend just make sure you know where all the digital clock settings are in your Kemper and your interface. I used the 6i6 and it worked well. Also, make sure you get spdif capable cables.

Cool thanks. Yeah I feel like I've seen several people over the years say S/PDIF if best. And yeah, I do recall the whole clock setting thing. That is a little daunting to me but I know I can search and find several threads on that, so hopefully I'll be able to figure it out!