Hi lovelies, I am a music producer here and I have the Profiler. As part of my workflow I pair the Profiler Toaster with Rig Manager and I browse sounds on exchange and make edits to the sound on the Rig Manager. The profiler is run directly out straight into my UA audio interface.
Can I basically duplicate this exact workflow using the Kemper Player? Is there anything the player cant do that im currently able to do with my current workflow on the Profiler?
Posts by guitarchiq
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Oh. Mylanta. You're amazing. :O
i could have swear that i tried this and it didnt work. but when i tried it just now, it did
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i have my Mac connected to my Kemper Toaster with Rig Manager up. Currently I'm using my mouse to select and double click a rig in Rig Manager in order to load it to audition it.
Is there a more streamlined way to do this via the keyboard? -
I know there's there's the manual and the YouTube videos but has anyone made a one page cheat sheet of the most common things people need to do on a Kemper?
Like maybe on a PDF or some other single page easy to look at material?
Kind of like in college when you go into the bookstore and they have these one page laminated cheat sheets of formulas or chemistry looking molecules that they sell for $2. Or those guitar chord posters.
Does this already exist or has anyone here privately made one for their own personal use? I mean this is something id actually, and I think others, would pay for?
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1) Hit store button
2) look at the options at the top of the screen. Hit the corresponding button over “store as”
3) edit profile name if desired
4) hit store againwhen you do this, is all the effects and stomps saved in the stored rig/profile as well?
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USA buyer here, I always buy from Sweetwater if possible. The fact I have had the same person as my sales rep for many years tells me they are paying these people well and it is a decent place to work. When you call other places, the person on the phone is like "Bro, I am making minimum wage. What do you want from me?". SW always goes the extra mile to make sure I am happy.
That said, SW annoys me with the Google Ads following me around for weeks after I look at something. You looked at a Kemper, here are Kemper ads for the next 3 weeks. Hope it wasn't a Xmas present because now everyone in your house is getting these ads. Some days I want to move to Europe, you guys dont seem to put up with this crap as much.
I wonder how much of a difference it is to buy from Kemper direct. Seems like most sales rep configs would have the german sales rep firm making money from the sale. Of course that would be closer to 5% then the higher numbers a seller would make. Interesting topic. For me, it would be dumb since they would have to mail across the globe. Someone will eat that cost.
I purchased my Kemper from Guitar Center (in town) in case I wanted to return it. When I was unhappy, GC would not take it back. So that back fired. I then bought my Helix from Sweetwater, so you lost a sale GC nice job. I try to never buy from GC ever. Musicians Friend purchased them and are slowly making them better but they are still my last choice.
I buy Sweetwater or MF Stupid Deal. MF has taken care of me in the past very well, but dont have the depth of help SW has.
I have a local shop I try to buy from first, to help them. But they rarely have what I am looking for. So I end up buying like 2% of my stuff there
I may make donations of old stuff there later
I've had my Sweetwater "sale's engineer" for years also and I wish they would change me. The guy chooses a headshot photo where he looks like Hitler, with the haircut and stache. Like WTF.
I always call the mainline to avoid his ass but they always try connect me back to him, ugh
I've got $10,000 worth of product in my cart, and he's like "the best I can do is 50 bucks off".
Meanwhile, guitar center has ALWAYS treated me well
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Sweetwater returns are Zero costs. You just drop off at a nearby UPS with prepaid label they email to you. Same as driving to return to a local store. GC does not offer a free replacement warranty for 2 years. And the staff don't have a clue about the products they sell. I use GC to pick up strings if I need them the same day but they push EB's and I like GHS which they have not been carrying lately.
That's not true. If the reason is for something that's not their fault you pay for return shipping.
For example if you don't like how something sounds and you return it for just that reason you pay
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I'm not understanding the no stereo out complaint.
There's clearly a stereo out. If you want xlr, couldn't you just buy a TRS to XLR adapter?
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In the Kemper Profiler Player promo material, theres a section under "for acoustic guitar players" that says:
"FOR ACOUSTIC GUITAR PLAYERS:
Use dedicated acoustic PROFILEs to tame the piezo pickups of your acoustic guitars.
Season to taste with KEMPER’s studio-grade reverbs for an immersive sound."
I'm curious as to what profiles its talking about. I've got a Kemper Toaster and Ive never seen any acoustic profiles that tame the piezos. Am I missing something, or is this a new feature specifically in the Player model?
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It actually means he is not recording an acoustic guitar at all. He is trying to approximate a real acoustic guitar by using an electric guitar plugged into the Kemper to simlulate what you are trying to do with an actual acoustic. We are all free to try what we want, but his comments have almost nothing to do with your question.
i see that now, i was confused. Yes, Bayou, im recording an actual acoustic guitar, not approximating one with an electric
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That's an option, but I would never record my acoustic guitar through the Kemper, even though it's possible to record that and the mics at the same time.
The key is learning (if you don't already) how to manipulate tracks and add things in your recording software.
Here's a typical scenario for me:
1) Record the acoustic part with a mic (or 2 if it's a feature part)
2) Clone the track twice into new tracks
3) Pan the clones L/R
4) Apply reverb/delay/compression to the clones to suit the song
5) Adjust the original track (dry) to make it as in your face as needed
this isn't really making sense. if you clone the track twice into new tracks and pan them L/R you end up with the identical mono track that you cloned. Are you saying you'll apply reverb to one track (L), and then a delay, or perhaps a separate reverb with different settings to the other track (R)?
also, in regards to having a dry track in addition to the wet track, wouldnt this be the same as adjusting how much you are sending to the return track with your effect on?
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Depends on the type of sound you are after, but I would not rely on any pickup system to record an acoustic. We are talking about strictly recording, correct? I would use a pickup system live but not to record. My goal is to capture the acoustic nature of the instrument and pickup systems get in the way of that.
For me it is about mic placement. I tend to place a mic somewhere in the area between the soundhole and the 12th fret. Small changes make a big difference. I have had success with dynamic, condensor and ribbon mics.
I see no reason to involve the Kemper in the recording of a tradiional acoustic guitar.
okay gotcha, yeah I am stereo mic'ing the guitar between the soundhole and the 12th fret. I just thought adding the kemper into the equation, with the levels way down, so its not that artifcial pickup sound, would give it an even fatter or "bigger" studio sound.
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Is this for recording? TBH I would always record an acoustic with 1 or 2 mics, preferably small diaphragm condensers, then apply any stereo effects downstream, but you can do some cool stuff by recording the mag pickup through the Kemper.
The mic quality, placement, room, and technique are the big ones, then add the sprinkles, rather than trying to use sprinkles to cover up issues upstream.
Yes, this is for recording. interesting tip, so what you are saying is, the signal from the kemper, you only record the FX signal (no dry tone), and then mix with the signal from the stereo mic?
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here is an example of what is happening:
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so right now im micing in stereo, my acoustic into the DAW on one track, and then i have a pickup system, going from my acoustic into the kemper, using a random acoustic profile i found on rig manager, into my DAW on another track. I'm lowering the track from the kemper by a lot, im kind of using that as another source of tone.
it sounds pretty good but anybody have any tips or techniques they would like to share? I would be forever grateful.
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I was searching for whether it was possible and came across this thread. Did this ever happen or is it still not a thing?
I found two profiles that I liked and wanted to just blend the two.
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