I need your help in the implementation for the in ear monitoring of a 4-member band. I created 2 graphics for this.
1. question. Is it even possible to implement it the way I imagined it?
2. Question. If possible, which variant is better?
For information: I have a Kemper Profiler Head with external power amplifier. Thank you for your help.
to me InEar monitoring has the following advantages (besides giving you the same sound every night, no matter where you are on stage):
- each band member has their own mix
- IEM mixes can be changed on stage
I don't see these core features in your setup.
As DonPetersen says, the advantage of in ears is having the sound you’re used to and being able to control it. We do this by having aux sends from the mixer to a headphone amp and then having tablets to control individual Aux. You’d need at least a headphone amp for your setup there and probably some very long cables. Everyone would get the same mix
Basic band monitoring would be as pictured:
You would connect the headphone amp to the headphone jack of the interface. And you are going to need a lot more than a Focusrite 2i2 if you have more than 2 band members.
The interface is used in the studio for recording. The mixer is used for live playback. But you can use both together.
You would connect the headphone amp to the headphone jack of the interface. And you are going to need a lot more than a Focusrite 2i2 if you have more than 2 band members.
The interface is used in the studio for recording. The mixer is used for live playback. But you can use both together.
If you connect to the headphone jack then you don´t need an headphone amp.
Since OP suggested connecting 4 headphones to a single output, a powered headphone splitter would be indispensable. Among other things.
If you connect to the headphone jack then you don´t need an headphone amp.
Yes you do if you need more headphone jacks than what the interface provides.
Basic band monitoring would be as pictured:
- All member goes to a mixer/interface
- Each member has his own mix from the mixer
This one is the way to go
But be aware that a wired iem sounds way better than a wireless.
Wired iem amps are cheap nowadays. My prefered one is Behringer Powerplay P2.
BTW, to get rid of the mixer output noise I insert xlr -12dB attenuators (self-built) between mixer and iem amps. Silence, perfect sound and really cheap. What else?
I would not say wired iem sounds WAY better than a wireless. A cheapo amazon special wireless, maybe. I tried a few and they were like FM radios. But a good middle of the ground iem like a Shure PSM300 sounds fantastic. The key is not so much the iem system, but the actual in ear monitors themselves. I found all this out the hard way. Started buying cheap stuff until I found the sweet spot of amazing sound in my ears, reliably.
Bottom line is building a IEM system for a band is something you need to budget for the correct gear. Using a behringer or similar digital mixer that's made for this purpose, is step 1. Trying to hack something together just to test it all out is great. But come time to commit? Time to do it right. Buy used and you'll be much happier.
I‘ve used the the Fisher Amps iem beltpack, which Sounds really good. Their iem Stick is much noisier. But nothing compared to the Sennheiser EW System we are using now. Mich More Noise and you hear the companding. Especially in the low range.
My bottom line - if you don’t move a Lot, go wired. And good custom buds Are important.
[...] if you don’t move a Lot, go wired. And good custom buds Are important.
I could not agree more, AndySchick.
Maybe, foam is a good start, but silicone molded i.e.m. is the way to go (easy to insert, easy to clean, stay in place while moving or singing).
And, of course, seek for i.e.m. which help you perform the music (not the most pleasing hi-fi). Mine are Westone Audio AM pro 30 (ambiant, semi-open, triple-driver).
Are you guys saying your in ear monitors are wired to the backline some where? Or wired to a belt pack that is then wireless to a router? I can't imagine dragging around a wire like headphones in a studio.
I have played a combination of guitar and Monitor cable for a long time, but moved to wireless a year ago. I accept the lower sound quality for the freedom when moving around. But our keyboarder and our drummer still go wired.
Are you guys saying your in ear monitors are wired to the backline some where? Or wired to a belt pack that is then wireless to a router? I can't imagine dragging around a wire like headphones in a studio.
Ours plug into the outputs of a stage box and are fed by stereo auxiliaries.
I use IEM almost exclusively. For the projects I play with most frequently, wireless IEM is provided by FOH with a separate aux from the mixer. However, the Kemper has a great feature if you want to use wired IEM for your own personal mix (not the other band members). I do this on smaller stages where wireless IEM isn’t provided.
In this case, I’ll get a stereo feed from the mixer with everything EXCEPT my guitar. This connnects to the aux input of my Kemper and blends with the guitar sound. You can control the input level of the aux input to mix the level of the band vs your guitar. I then use the headphone output to feed my IEMs. I’ve even made a cable that has both my guitar signal and a stereo headphone feed in one (albeit pretty chunky cable). It’s pretty neat!
Sorry still dont understand. Your ie monitors are conected with a cable on stage somewhere? I have enogh trouble managing my guitar chord.
Display MoreBasic band monitoring would be as pictured:
- All member goes to a mixer/interface
- Each member has his own mix from the mixer
please refer to that image. That shows exactly the way to connect if you make it wired or wireless doesn’t matter.
The 4 devices at the bottom are showing some IEM transmitters and receivers. To those receivers you’ve to plug your headphone into.
If you want to run it wired then plug your headphone amp to the mixing console (red arrows) and plug your headphone itself at the end of this connection.
