Hello,
Senior citizen here so that would explain part of it! I've got the 'TopJimi' Bassman profile loaded up. Why am I seeing and hearing the 'Kemper Generic' amp model at the bottom of Rig Manager? It is definitely affecting the sound. Is this what I'm hearing instead of the Bassman profile? How do I get rid of the 'Kemper Generic' to where I'm only hearing the 'TopJimi' Bassman profile? Sam
In KEMPER, a Generic Amp uses non-specific, universal amp controls that do not match any real circuit. In contrary - Liquid Profiling models a specific amplifier, making tone controls behave like the real amp with more accurate and realistic response.
There are liquid profiles available (Like Guidorist Liquid Profile Pack) where Amp Model refers to a profile.
Summing up - all is fine.
What you are seeing is the modelled “tone stack”. This was introduced as part of Liquid Profiling. If you don’t adjust any of the tone controls it makes no difference which tone stacks is showing. If you have a true liquid profile which was made with the tone controls set to the same position as those on the real amp and the tone stack for that amp is loaded in the Amp Model box then any adjustments to the tone controls should respond in the same way as those on the real amp. However, if you don’t have the same tone stack as the real amp (not all real tone stacks have been modelled), the virtual knobs in the profile haven’t been calibrated to match the real amp, etc the tone controls will change the sound but just not in the same way as the real amp. The default model Kemper Generic is a good general purpose tone stacks that works well with most profiles but there is nothing wrong with trying others to see if you like them.
Kemper Drive (and its predecessor Green Scream) are based on the Ibanez tube Screamer pedal. This pedal has two key features
1 - there is always a little clean signal present underneath the overdrive
2 - a little bass trimming and a mid boost around 800hz.
It is common to use this style of pedal to push an already overdriven amp rather than as distortion for a clean amp. In particular metal players seem to like the way it cuts bass and “tightens” the low end. A graphic eq is often used after the amp to boost bass (after the distortion stages). This is sometimes combined in a single amp like the Mesa Boogie Mark Series.
Do you get the same bass cut when using the Mouse, Big Muff etc?
The 'Mouse' was worse in terms of the bottom dropping out. However, the 'Muffin' with the settings shown is exactly what I was looking for! I needed to turn the 'Drive' all the way down though and 'Mix' to 60%. Thanks so much for replying!
Glad you got the sound you are after. Obviously there are many ways to skin a cat and without knowing what sort of sound you are after it’s difficult to be specific. I tend to use amp distortion rather than pedals but even with pedals loss of bass isn’t really a problem for me.
Welcome fellow Senior. Please disregard if you you are aware already.
Get your tone where you like it for backing work. When its time to shine hit the rig selector again. The is will initiate morph. Now you can change virtually any parameter you see in rig manager that has a nob. Got to amp section. Increase gain a few points. Add some mid. Back down treble. Turn up amp volume. Hit your rig button again and everything morphs back to initial settings. Hit it to morh and you get your lead tone adjustments. If you like it don't forget to hit store. Morph it!! I said Morphit!!
Thanks to all. I'm not a complete newb - lol. I just needed to clear up a few things. I've been using it for thirteen years on my YouTube channel and get a lot of compliments on my tone. Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it! Sam
Welcome fellow Senior. Please disregard if you you are aware already.
Get your tone where you like it for backing work. When its time to shine hit the rig selector again. The is will initiate morph. Now you can change virtually any parameter you see in rig manager that has a nob. Got to amp section. Increase gain a few points. Add some mid. Back down treble. Turn up amp volume. Hit your rig button again and everything morphs back to initial settings. Hit it to morh and you get your lead tone adjustments. If you like it don't forget to hit store. Morph it!! I said Morphit!!
Sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip!
Glad you got the sound you are after. Obviously there are many ways to skin a cat and without knowing what sort of sound you are after it’s difficult to be specific. I tend to use amp distortion rather than pedals but even with pedals loss of bass isn’t really a problem for me.
Another great tip. Thank you!
I'm not sure if I should start another thread about this or not but here goes;
I own several vintage Fender amps and have completely FAILED at profiling ANY of them successfully. The profile doesn't sound anywhere near what my amps sound like. I have found threads and videos on the subject and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Is it all down to the mic and mic placement? I own a Sennheiser e609 and Shure SM57. I have several Deluxe Reverbs and Princeton Reverbs in addition to piggyback amps I'd love to profile.
Any tips from my fellow seniors?
Sam
I'm not sure if I should start another thread about this or not but here goes;
I own several vintage Fender amps and have completely FAILED at profiling ANY of them successfully. The profile doesn't sound anywhere near what my amps sound like. I have found threads and videos on the subject and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Is it all down to the mic and mic placement? I own a Sennheiser e609 and Shure SM57. I have several Deluxe Reverbs and Princeton Reverbs in addition to piggyback amps I'd love to profile.
Any tips from my fellow seniors?
It could be a lot of things, but mic placement is a big part. If you have any kind of console I would recommend getting the mic feed to sound like you want it and then capture studio and direct profiles (main manual talks about that). One thing I noticed profiling my Deville is that it comes across with a lot more low end than I was expecting. After listening to the amp more I realized that was really there.
It took me dozens of attempts before I got something I was happy with.
One last thing - your playback scenario is important. I tried a few things but ended up with Kemper Kones for my monitors.
I looked up one of the mics tone junkie mentioned in one of his videos. It was well over $1000.
I'm not sure if I should start another thread about this or not but here goes;
Please start a new thread - your question is too unrelated.
