Come undone (Duran Duran) Profile possible for Kemper?

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    For some time now I’m in a Duran Duran tribute and i’m struggling for some time now to nail a profile of their song Come Undone. Tried everything but all-in vain until I came across the article below:

    According to this message Kemper should be able to create such a profile but this is also quite exaggerated. So my question: Is my updated Kemper really be able to create such a profile? I have been directed to RM for looking for Duran Duran but all 22939 krigs don’t show So my search continues... unless someone hopefully has the right answer.

  • theplayer December 13, 2025 at 7:32 PM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Come undone (Duran Duran) profile possible for Kemper” to “Come undone (Duran Duran) profile possible for Kemper?”.
  • From your ai explanation, I wouldn’t bother trying to find a Duran Duran rig. I’d build one from its suggestions to work with your gear.

    The profile isn’t special. A JC120 or similar is all.

    80s guitar tones are just piled (layered) with so much stuff.

  • Dial in a cleanish amp at less than 2 on gain. In Stomps: Add a soft compressor at mid threshold and heavier attack. Add a phaser oneway downfall. Add a Cry Wah Wah at 50% mix cocked at 60%. In Effects: Add a Dual delay at 60% and both delays at 3/16. Then add a Chromatic Delay at 100% and delay 1 at 12ms and delay 2 at 0ms.

    Took me longer to write this than to create it. ;) It should give you a really good starting point.

    Larry Mar @ Lonegun Studios. Neither one famous yet.

  • Hi Paults, Ruefus and Bayou Texan, this is more than I hoped for... Thank you all! I'm going to work them all out.

    Besides this all I must take in consideration that I always play with a standard LP and that sounds quite different from a strat which is used for this song. For playing a convincing copy I think I need some extra in the high frequenties. But I 'll work this out too.

    Thank you again.:)

  • Hi Paults, Ruefus and Bayou Texan, this is more than I hoped for... Thank you all! I'm going to work them all out.

    Besides this all I must take in consideration that I always play with a standard LP and that sounds quite different from a strat which is used for this song. For playing a convincing copy I think I need some extra in the high frequenties. But I 'll work this out too.

    Thank you again.:)

    Making a Les Paul sound like a strat is not about adding highs. I would actually use the neck pickup which tends to be fewer turns and roll off the low end from 80Hz to about 300 or so. Still not going to really sound much like a strat unless you put an 008 or 009 set on it. You don't have any kind of strat-alike? In any case if you do tone changes on the LP, do it BEFORE any gain stages.

  • I use the neck pickup allready for the song and you're right: it isn't just the right sound. I always have a 009 set, for better bendings use. Among my 13 guitars I have a Larry Carlton Strat. I'm not used playing that becaus it feels different than my LP. I guess it has a 010 set, and it's just as have like my LP, so it's not a real lightweight strat like

  • *If* the LP can split coils, that may help - but also generates its own issues.

    Given how heavily affected that sound is - I don’t know anyone will notice the guitar’s sound.

    Bet it doesn’t sound like that live.😎

    Yes , the LP can split coils, but this is a rather technical intervention with solder to something I wouldn't attempt.

    And Yes, I know Ruefus, but a public also wants to recognize the feel of the sound too that comes with the band.

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  • Burkhard December 14, 2025 at 11:11 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Come undone (Duran Duran) profile possible for Kemper?” to “Come undone (Duran Duran) Profile possible for Kemper?”.
  • Yes , the LP can split coils, but this is a rather technical intervention with solder to something I wouldn't attempt.

    And Yes, I know Ruefus, but a public also wants to recognize the feel of the sound too that comes with the band.

    My point is that Duran Duran live very likely doesn’t sound like the studio recording.

    Splitting hairs live vs studio get tedious.

    The feel has more to do with the entire band as a whole than it does Strat vs LP.

    If the guitar isn’t already set up to split coils - don’t bother. It’s not *that* big a deal.

  • The feel has more to do with the entire band as a whole than it does Strat vs LP.

    besides, IME nothing can be done to make a humbucker sound like a single coil, even a split humbucker doesn't sound right.

    as was already said, it's much, much more important to play the part really well, to get the timing and phrasing right
    I play a lot of cover versions and use only one guitar, unless a string breaks, so most of the time the audience & the other band members hear the bridge humbucker with the Mars Golub Crnch rig - nobody complained, ever. Quite the contrary.

  • I use the neck pickup allready for the song and you're right: it isn't just the right sound. I always have a 009 set, for better bendings use. Among my 13 guitars I have a Larry Carlton Strat. I'm not used playing that becaus it feels different than my LP. I guess it has a 010 set, and it's just as have like my LP, so it's not a real lightweight strat like

    I think if it were me in your shoes I would introduce myself to Larry :). Or maybe try a Tele. I got a nice Mexican one for under 700. I turned mine into a Nashville tuner for Fleetwood Mac / REM type of stuff.

  • My point is that Duran Duran live very likely doesn’t sound like the studio recording.

    Splitting hairs live vs studio get tedious.

    The feel has more to do with the entire band as a whole than it does Strat vs LP.

    If the guitar isn’t already set up to split coils - don’t bother. It’s not *that* big a deal.

    At the time 1993 they had changed guitarists. The new guy was playing Steinberg ers at the time so I wouldn't chase fender single coils to far. Of course very difficult to verify what take on what track used what instrument. Lots of live photos date unknown show tele but with uncovered hb in bridge and neck position. They did revert to original guitarist at one point.

    That's the question for me about tribute bands. What are you paying tribute to? The original studio track? The MTV video? Live performances supporting the album release? Subsequent tours?

    If its the album release depending on the producer and artists the musicians most likely didn't own the instruments amps and effects used in the studio. They fly in from all over the world at different times some bands don't even see each other recording the tracks at separate times. That moment on the album never existed. And there was probably no attempt made to recreate it.

    If its the first tour once again musicians most likely dont own any of the gear they go on the road with on a big world tour. Their not subjecting their precious rare equipment to the road.sometimes the bands line up has changed. Songs are rearranged for live impact or performance practicality.

    I understand its part of the reward to achieve accurate tone and performances but for me that's a moving target that original artists never tried to achieve and likely would have found that approach boring and tedious.

  • Do whatever you find joy in :). In my mind it's not important for one instrument to sound bang on if everything else doesn't. A coherent sound that works with the rest of the band is more important (which usually for me is a Marshall sound)

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  • That's the question for me about tribute bands. What are you paying tribute to? The original studio track? The MTV video? Live performances supporting the album release? Subsequent tours?

    If its the album release depending on the producer and artists the musicians most likely didn't own the instruments amps and effects used in the studio. They fly in from all over the world at different times some bands don't even see each other recording the tracks at separate times. That moment on the album never existed. And there was probably no attempt made to recreate it.

    If its the first tour once again musicians most likely dont own any of the gear they go on the road with on a big world tour. Their not subjecting their precious rare equipment to the road.sometimes the bands line up has changed. Songs are rearranged for live impact or performance practicality.

    I understand its part of the reward to achieve accurate tone and performances but for me that's a moving target that original artists never tried to achieve and likely would have found that approach boring and tedious.

    This is very true....

    Having done tribute bands for the last 15 years, my view is:

    1) The audience will always reference the album version rather than live, so I aim to recreate the album/ recorded version where possible.

    2) You have to balance that with often the "real" band can't recreate the recorded version, so listening to live versions is also important of how to do it..

    3) 90% of it is what you play. I don't hunt too hard for a particular sound, its more about copying the phrasing and style more than the tone. Good playing will cover a bad sound, a good sound will NOT cover bad playing.

  • ....btw Dom Brown seems to play a tele with a humbucker in the neck and single coil at the bridge live. Can;t fully make it out but I think he uses the middle position to combine the two.

    To get the sound I'd go for quite clean with some chorus and its almost a phaser type sound set quite low, almost a cocked wah sound...I'd just keep messing with those types of sounds.

    I also went to see them live a few weeks ago...this is a great song!

  • Now I found a rotary fx from Tone Junkie for the profiler. I downloaded this and now it's on my desktop as a kipr file ( Mmmm Rotary..

    But in RM it's a rig like all others. So just importing it doesn't work.

    I like to import this file as an new fx (between all others?) for my existing rig so I can take a further step to get that sound even better. and more accurate (with a bit tweaking). Is this possible and if so: How to do that?

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