One LIQUID to replace them all?

  • The point is to have a “pure” profile of an actual amp.

    “Pure” means as close as it gets.

    Why: to explore the actual tone and possibilities of multiple amps, set them up on my own.

    Like one user mentioned, two different Fender Vibrochamps can sound completely different to one another due to component variance. There in fact is no "pure sound" of any amp model - there is no "pure" Fender Vibrochamp sound. Only thousands of variations that all sound very similar but still have a difference. How do you determine which single amp represents the "pure" sound? You can say that "whatever averages between all of them" but that's a statistical thing. When you capture an amp, you capture one amp. There is no computing process that let's you create an averaged profile based on 30 different Fender profiles to isolate what's shared between them.

    There is a pure schematic and list of parts for how to put the amp together. But following it step by step doesn't lead to a "pure" sound. There still is the +/-20% possible variance from one example to the next.

    This is a dead end journey. Running different pre-amps through the same power amp makes the differences between them less noticable. Running a single pre-amp through different power amps makes that single amp sound different in each scenario. The idea of this singular, explicitly defined "signature sound" doesn't exist so chasing it will yield nothing. It maybe sounds condescending to tell you to just find sounds you like and don't get hung up on how accurate they are to whatever they are named after, but that's actually solid advice. Find profiles you like that don't all sound the same and play around with them and you'll be doing exactly what you want to do.

    Edited once, last by Preacher (June 8, 2025 at 11:39 PM).

  • I personally prefer to use profiles as-is without changing the gain knob, and tweak the sound/tone with the parametric EQ. I rarely change the amp EQ. Then again, I haven’t played around with liquid profiles that much. Whenever I use the liquid feature, it seems that it’s just a different way of EQ´ing the amp profile.

  • Whenever I use the liquid feature, it seems that it’s just a different way of EQ´ing the amp profile.

    It seems that way because that's what it is. I'm like you, I rarely change the EQ of a profile. Once you have the high pass and low pass filter set so it works with the system you're using, the rest to me is the different flavors.

  • The only difference between High Gain and Low Gain is how much bass is present.

    That is why DEFINITION rolls off the bass. If you want more control use an EQ.

    Clean amps are generally Low and high freq heavy (50Hz, 10 kHz).
    Mid Gain to Blues solo is Mid freq heavy (700 - 1000 Hz).
    High Gain has no bass and a lot of highs. Usually a slope up to 2000 Hz or so.

  • While you definitely have a point, I’d say that high gain is a broad term and it depends on what you try to achieve.

    When tuning a guitar (very) low it’s not because you try to totally get rid of the low frequencies…

    Anthrax and Job For A Cowboy are both high gain guitar sounds but very different.