Ability to lock just a module's parameters, not it active/inactive status

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    ☑️ Profiler Head/Rack

    This feature request would be beneficial for the Stage, Head, and Rack, MK1 and MK2 (not the player since they are not going to allow locking at all).

    Locking is great, but only if you want something active in every Rig. Say you want the Kemper drive in module B in half of your rigs for a gig? Then you can then tweak it during sound check and it's good to go. You're not going to put anything else in module B in any your clean rigs anyway, so you just want module B with the Kemper Drive to be inactive by default in these rigs. You might have a reason to toggle on your locked Kemper drive in module B in these clean rigs too, but you DON'T want it on by default when you first select any of your clean Rigs, as this would defeat the whole point of setting up the rigs in your performance to switch between gain stages.

    The easiest way to provide this feature would be a global option in System Settings that is off by default: I'd call it: "Lock parameters only." or maybe "lock effect type and settings only" to match Kemper's terminology. Then locking a module only locks the effect type and its settings, not whether it is active or inactive in different rigs.

    *With the new fixed effects, this locking style could be quite beneficial, as you might want to dial them in to taste once during soundcheck, but certainly don't want them on by default in all your Rigs. Likewise, a lot of guitarists refuse to give up their real analogue drive pedals and opt to put them in their all-in-one's effect loops. Why? Is it because the virtual ones are no good? No. The biggest reason is that they can adjust this real pedal anytime they want, knowing that any Rig that has it in its audio loop active will sound the same. My feature request would allow you to use the virtual drives or any other effect with the same convenience that using real pedals in loops provides. (but without all the inconveniences of using real pedals: more pedal board space, the need to provide power to them, and adding latency through more AD/DA conversion).

    Edited once, last by Grooguit: Both the original title and post were confusing and I thought of a much better way to implement this without irking the guitarists that wouldn't have a use for it. (June 20, 2025 at 6:25 PM).

  • Inhave to admit that when I saw the title and read the first line or two I thought you were bat shit crazy and just didn’t understand locking. However, when I conitued reading the full description and implementation scenarios I totally changed my mind. Those definitely sound like really useful features for live use and could make the Kemper even more powerful and user friendly. I could definitely see me using both of those selections regularly.

  • Seriously though, doing this would solve the biggest Achilles’ heel of multi units that no one has solved. These days tons of guitarists use traditional pedals or even digital ones with their own presets, with audio loop switchers for this very reason. All-in-one makers figured this out and all the full sized units offer audio loops. Meanwhile, all of them have made very impressive internal effects including drives, which can hang with real analog pedals.
    Why do guitars still use real analog, pedals in loops? One is just the need for acquiring new gear and if you’re going to use some sort of all in one, you need to add pedals to make your rig look unique and to share pictures in social media. There’s no fixing that.

    However, part of it is exactly what I described. With a real pedal, you can set it and forget it and have a different active and inactive status in any preset or rig. At any moment you can make small adjustments to it because it’s just not sounding right or you have a different guitar or whatever.
    Kemper is the only unit capable of solving this problem. All of its competitors have this grid sort of matrix signal path. There’s some advantages to having that, but because there is no fixed signal path that all of its presets share, you can’t lock effects in a “certain spot” because there is no “certain spot,” at least the way they show it in their GUI.
    The Kemper already offers the ability to lock effects. They get it! Sometimes you have certain things you just want to stay the same and be always on

    But they are this close to solving the problem that plagues all-in-ones: sometimes you want certain things to be the same, but not always on or off by default! That’s exactly the way you can program the audio loops! That’s exactly the way switching systems have worked for decades.
    All they need to do is allow a second option to lock parameters, but not lock the active or inactive status.

  • At the risk of tooting my own horn (what do I care it's the internet) HOW is this not a more popular idea or worthy of comment from a Kemper employee? Was this already discussed in the past and I just missed it? Like geez, the feature requests on here that fill dozens of pages where people debate features that would be impossible to implement.

    My request is literally the last remaining age-old problem that has plagued all-in-one units for decades. Kemper is the ONLY maker of a high end modeler that could even OFFER this perfect solution, since they make the only high end product with the fixed signal path needed to make locking logical and possible. How many guitarists do you know that still use some physical pedals in loops and want the loops only active in some Rigs (what the competition calls presets)? They are THIS close. The Kemper already has a locking feature, letting you set and forget effects in certain spots that you want fixed in every Rig. Why not allow the locks to ignore active/inactive status?

  • At the risk of tooting my own horn (what do I care it's the internet) HOW is this not a more popular idea or worthy of comment from a Kemper employee? Was this already discussed in the past and I just missed it? Like geez, the feature requests on here that fill dozens of pages where people debate features that would be impossible to implement.

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  • OK, today’s teaser sounds an awfully lot like this sort of thing I suggested here a few weeks back, but potentially better! (no it doesn't; this comment didn't age well once I learned what the fixed effects are)

    Edited once, last by Grooguit (June 20, 2025 at 6:46 PM).

  • Grooguit June 20, 2025 at 5:13 PM

    Changed the title of the thread from “A lock parameters option and a Rig setting that ignores locks” to “Ability to lock just a module's parameters, not it active/inactive status”.
  • At the risk of tooting my own horn (what do I care it's the internet) HOW is this not a more popular idea or worthy of comment from a Kemper employee? Was this already discussed in the past and I just missed it? Like geez, the feature requests on here that fill dozens of pages where people debate features that would be impossible to implement.

    My request is literally the last remaining age-old problem that has plagued all-in-one units for decades. Kemper is the ONLY maker of a high end modeler that could even OFFER this perfect solution, since they make the only high end product with the fixed signal path needed to make locking logical and possible. How many guitarists do you know that still use some physical pedals in loops and want the loops only active in some Rigs (what the competition calls presets)? They are THIS close. The Kemper already has a locking feature, letting you set and forget effects in certain spots that you want fixed in every Rig. Why not allow the locks to ignore active/inactive status?

    I didn't really understand this issue at first, but this is a good explanation. Now I realize this is the reason I am not really using the locking feature. To be able to lock down some configuration without locking down whether it is always on or always off makes a great deal of sense. So I'm adding my +1 below.