Is a Player Remote planned ?

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    Quote from wpotere

    It has Bluetooth, no need for RJ45.

    That said, why not just get a MIDI controller and program it?

    Most small MIDI controllers seem to have 4 buttons. Something with a layout that matches the Kempers preset handling, possibly even with a screen that would be natively supported, is a fantastic idea to me. Especially if it still keeps a compact footprint.

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    Quote from Torbiz

    Most small MIDI controllers seem to have 4 buttons. Something with a layout that matches the Kempers preset handling, possibly even with a screen that would be natively supported, is a fantastic idea to me. Especially if it still keeps a compact footprint.

    Plenty of MIDI options out there that have more than 4.
    Here is one example of a 3 - 6 - 8 solution.

    Morningstar Engineering | MIDI & Effect Controllers
    Morningstar Engineering designs and manufactures fully programmable MIDI Foot Controllers and Audio Switchers.
    www.morningstar.io

    Here is a how to:

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    I get wanting to have something that is simlar to the Kemper one. I'm just saying you can do it now.

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    Plenty of MIDI options out there that have more than 4.
    Here is one example of a 3 - 6 - 8 solution.

    https://www.morningstar.io/midi-controllers

    Here is a how to:

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    I get wanting to have something that is simlar to the Kemper one. I'm just saying you can do it now.

    Sure you can do it. But this still has a 2x4 layout compared to the Kemper’s 5. I’m also guessing a Kemper remote could get patch names etc automatically. Midi controllers are great, but I haven’t seen many except for the Airstep that would fit right in with the Kemper layouts, and that one doesn’t have a screen. I would absolutely buy a dedicated Kemper Player remote.

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    It looks cool and I’m sure a few people would buy one but I can’t see a mass market for it.

    It would be a Kemper Product made in Germany so would be significantly more expensive that the current midi controller options.

    The cost of a Player and Remote would likely be pretty close to a Stage but with greatly reduced functionality. Even if the Player software was updated to allow all the functionality of the Stage, the lack of physical inputs and outputs means the Player can never be a true rival for the Stage.

    The footprint of the Player and the Remote would be much the same as a Stage with the big disadvantage of an external wall wart power supply for both units.

    Basically you would need to a true Kemper fan boy to buy into this model.

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    Why do people keep saying just buy a Stage?

    How many versions of the same thing do Line 6 and Fractal and Headrush, etc have...and they all sell well.

    Most Player owners I know also own a Head or Rack and or a Stage. ..they like Kemper products, they like Kemper tones, they like to own different versions.

    If I look at the hundreds of photos of Player pedalboards on Facebook, almost every one has either a M Vave Chocolat or some other midi pedalboard, all those sales of midi pedals could have been Kemper sales if there was a mini Remote for the Player.

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    Quote from Guitartone

    If I look at the hundreds of photos of Player pedalboards on Facebook, almost every one has either a M Vave Chocolat or some other midi pedalboard, all those sales of midi pedals could have been Kemper sales if there was a mini Remote for the Player.

    But would they have been profitable sales? The M-vave Chocolate costs £29.99. There is no way Kemper can build something like a Player Remote in Germany to their standards for even close to that sort of money. I don’t think Kemper are interested in making a loss leader product just because people might buy it. That’s a vicious circle that any business needs to avoid. They lose money on every sale but the product becomes so successful that’s they lose more and more money the more successful it becomes.

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    Quote from Wheresthedug

    But would they have been profitable sales? The M-vave Chocolate costs £29.99. There is no way Kemper can build something like a Player Remote in Germany to their standards for even close to that sort of money. I don’t think Kemper are interested in making a loss leader product just because people might buy it. That’s a vicious circle that any business needs to avoid. They lose money on every sale but the product becomes so successful that’s they lose more and more money the more successful it becomes.

    I agree 100% with you regarding trying to compete price wise with Chinese made controllers.

    But I see a bunch of new made in China small size modellers hitting the market lately, with a fancy screen, expression pedal, etc etc, and much cheaper than the Player...but people are willing to pay more if it's a Kemper and made in Germany.

    On the other hand the Kabinets are all made in China and they seem to have sold well enough.

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    Quote from Guitartone

    But I see a bunch of new made in China small size modellers hitting the market lately, with a fancy screen, expression pedal, etc etc, and much cheaper than the Player...but people are willing to pay more if it's a Kemper and made in Germany.

    Fair points but I would argue that people are buying the Kemper over these cheaper modellers based on perceived sound quality rather than pyong more for a like for like product. However, a midi controller/remote doesn’t contribute to the sound in any way so it would be a much harder sell to convince me to pay extra for the Kemper version over something a small and cheap as the M-Vave.

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    You can go with a RJM Mastermind LT. It can do nearly everything you would wanna have done by a remote. I like the thought of a "mini remote", too.

    Actually I use a RJM PBC to have space for different additional single pedals, what is missing (for me) in the player: I real good polyphonic pitch shifter= Virtual jeff. A digitech freqout. a stutter-hold and real good tape rewind effect=BOSS DD8. A versatile sustain compressor= drybell U67. BOSS Slicer....I am looking forward the promised "weeks, not months" update for sliceresque sounds. One of the reasons for the RJM PBC: you have a programmable insert point for the player. so I can add 3 FX pre and 3 effects post kemper. AND I have added a tuner, because the internal 3LED "tuner" is the worst and most useless idea I have ever seen in a pedal. a harley benton guitar for 80 bucks is having a little display, every cheap mutliFX is able to show you a regular display and kemper can´t? Mhm, kemper was not willing..ok. I woouldn´t need a tuner, because the RJM is able to show the kemper internal tuner in it´s RJM display...very nice! But I love my KORG pitchblack for it´s nice 3D display. After the end of the PBC I use a RADIAL DI BOX to have XLR for FOH and stereo through I send my signal into a little mixer for my IEM. the player is a very useful tool and makes everything a little bit more compact. For my next gig I will use the OTTER DUO+ SWITCH directly with the player, nothing more (but a tuner is needed to added), to have it really small.